Asim Ismail

chairman of Al-Wasila Trust

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Asim Ismail is the chairman of Al-Wasila Trust. He says about 70% of his charity's projects have become financially self-sustainable and hopes the projects will be 100% sustainable within two years. He has also taught for many years, including in teacher training.

Early life and background

Ismail says he used to play guitar. He also says that reading the Quran with translation and tafseer changed him completely. Ismail says he came to feel that life was different from what he had understood and that it had a purpose. He says it has always been a matter of balance for him. [1]

Education and teaching

Ismail says he began to study formally, learning from several teachers over many years. He set aside at least four to five hours a day for study alongside his work. He has been teaching for many years, including in teacher training. Ismail says he teaches with a lot of humour, as his own teachers did. [1]

Al-Wasila Trust

Ismail is the chairman of Al-Wasila Trust. He says his goal was to make the organisation self-sustaining. According to Ismail, the trust does three kinds of things to sustain itself, so that it never closes for financial reasons if he is no longer there. He says about 70% of his charity's projects have become financially self-sustainable, and he hopes the projects will be 100% sustainable within the next two years. [1]

Ismail says Saya is his organisation's latest project, launched about six months earlier. He says the trust aims to help anyone willing to work stand on their own feet. He describes his team as his biggest asset and says nobody has left his organisation so far. Ismail also says the governor and his wife invited him to discuss a project. [1]

Rozgar

Ismail says Rozgar is the oldest project and started in 2007, which makes 14 years. He says Rozgar gets many people work each month, for example by buying a rickshaw for them or setting someone up with a cart. [1]

Giving in kind and repayment

Ismail says his organisation buys products for recipients and does not give cash. He says recipients keep returning the money to his organisation without interest. According to Ismail, about 70% of the money was being returned and about 30% was not. He adds that it was found that only about 2% of the defaulters were deliberately cheating. [1]

Clinics

Ismail says his organisation went into poor areas and opened clinics, and now has six. He says it sees 10 to 12,000 patients per month. Ismail says the charge was 10 rupees at the start, covering treatment and medicines, and is now 30 rupees. He puts the cost at 100 rupees per patient, of which the organisation takes 30, and says about 20% of people cannot pay anything and are not charged. [1]

Showroom and donated goods

Ismail says his organisation took a showroom in the upmarket Tariq Road area. He says the people who came were verified as eligible to receive zakat. According to Ismail, a poor family can take home a full bedroom set for 20,000 rupees. He says his organisation employs carpenters and other workers who make items brand new. [1]

Ismail says a man who was moving from America had 20 containers of goods and donated all of them to Ismail's organisation. He also says an item priced at 100 rupees is made available for 80 rupees. [1]

Waste collection

Ismail says his organisation took on a whole area containing 6,000 houses, with the service priced at 100 rupees per house. He says it collects garbage from homes three days a week and cleans the streets and neighbourhood every 15 days. After a WhatsApp message to the organisation, collection happens within 24 hours, he says. [1]

According to Ismail, the items go to his organisation's factory, where they are sorted and each one is sold, which makes money for the organisation. He says a company has signed an MOU to give all of its dry waste to his organisation. Ismail adds that another organisation is giving its dry waste to his organisation as well. [1]

Housing

Ismail says a house for the poorest families would cost 25 to 30 lakh rupees to build normally. He says a house is ready for 14 to 15 lakh rupees, made up of 6 to 7 lakh for construction and 6 to 7 lakh for land. His organisation hired people who draw the plans, act as contractors and do the building themselves. [1]

According to Ismail, families pay his organisation the rent they were already paying, such as 8,000, 10,000 or 12,000 rupees depending on the area, for 12 years. He says the same house is offered for 3 lakh rupees in Surjani Town and 4 lakh in Orangi. The land is in the family's own name, and they gain a property for life. Ismail says his organisation invested 13 to 14 lakh rupees, of which 4 lakh came back as a down payment, and he expects his money to come back within two years. [1]

Education work

Ismail says education is a long-term solution for the community. He says his organisation's first batch showed results equal to those of the top schools in Pakistan. According to Ismail, a child leaving his programme knows Arabic and tafseer and has studied philosophy and engineering. [1]

Ismail says his organisation had a full philosophy subject developed by a man who studied philosophy at Harvard. He says it also designed a full curriculum, made by Muslims for Muslims with today's challenges in mind. His organisation has adopted two schools, one in Islamabad and one in Pindi. [1]

Media

Ismail says his vision was to combine education, social work and media for the Ummah. He says the channel's aim was to be an alternative to mainstream media. His organisation hired an international company to do its branding, and an app and a channel were launched on 19 April. [1]

Views

Ismail says he treats challenges as opportunities. He says the aim is not to reduce the nation further to pauperism. He says the focus had been on one's own ticket to paradise rather than on the effect on another person, and that he began to view charity cynically, as a continuous cycle. [1]

Ismail says salaries have risen by only 3,000 rupees while expenses have doubled. He says a person earning 40,000 rupees is also eligible for zakat. After many projects, he says parental training is the most important need, and that parents have become obsolete because media has taken over. [1]

Timeline

2007
Rozgar, which Ismail describes as the oldest project, started.[1]

Appearances

DateTitleWhere
2021-02-26 Sustainable giving reshapes what charity means in Pakistan Thought Behind Things

Frequently asked questions

Who is Asim Ismail?

Asim Ismail is the chairman of Al-Wasila Trust. He has also taught for many years, including in teacher training.[1]

What does Asim Ismail do?

Asim Ismail is the chairman of Al-Wasila Trust. He has been teaching for many years, including in teacher training. He says he also studied formally under several teachers.[1]

Where did Asim Ismail study?

Asim Ismail says he began to study formally, learning from several teachers over many years. He says he set aside at least four to five hours a day for study alongside his work.[1]

How self-sustaining are Asim Ismail's charity projects?

Asim Ismail says about 70% of his charity's projects have become financially self-sustainable. He hopes the projects will be 100% sustainable within the next two years.[1]

What is Rozgar, according to Asim Ismail?

Asim Ismail says Rozgar is the oldest project and started in 2007. He says it gets many people work each month, for example by buying a rickshaw for them or setting someone up with a cart.[1]

What does Asim Ismail say about education?

Asim Ismail says education is a long-term solution for the community. He says his organisation has adopted two schools, one in Islamabad and one in Pindi.[1]

What media work has Asim Ismail described?

Asim Ismail says an app and a channel were launched on 19 April, and that the channel's aim was to be an alternative to mainstream media. He says more than 400 videos have been uploaded.[1]

References

  1. Sustainable giving reshapes what charity means in Pakistan . Thought Behind Things , 2021-02-26.
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  1. Asim Ismail is the chairman of Al-Wasila Trust. In conversation with Asim Ismail Jafrani, chairman Al-Wasila Trust, this episode explores how charity can be done in multiple ways.
  2. Asim says he used to play guitar. Toh us waqt I, uh, main actually modeling karwata tha. Cash, cash box, modeling, I used to play guitar.
  3. Asim says reading the Quran with translation and tafseer changed him completely. woh jab haath laga Quran aur jo Quran ko padhna shuru kiya, tarjume ke saath, tafseer ke saath, that changed completely.
  4. Asim says he began to study formally, learning from several teachers over many years. uske baad formally seekhna shuru kiya, kai ustadon se padha, kai saalon tak padha
  5. Asim says he set aside at least 4 to 5 hours a day for study alongside his work. daily ek time makhsoos kar liya ke at least 4 to 5 hours a day kaam ke saath padhna hai
  6. Asim says he has been teaching for many years, including in teacher training. Aur phir padhaya bhi bahut saal. Ab toh bahut saal ho gaye padhate hue, teachers training mein bhi
  7. Asim says he came to feel that life was different from what he had understood and that it had a purpose. Yani life is something different, woh nahi hai jo main samajh raha hun. It has something else, it has a purpose.
  8. Asim says it has always been a matter of balance for him. it has always been a balance kind of thing for me
  9. Asim says he teaches with a lot of humour, as his own teachers did. woh main bhi aaj jab sikha raha hota hun toh usmein mastiyan bahut kar raha hota hun aur jokes bahut kar raha hota hun, isliye ke mere maine seekha unhi ustadon se.
  10. Asim says his organisation buys products for recipients and does not give cash. Difference yeh hai ke hum product khareed ke dete hain, cash nahi dete.
  11. Asim says recipients keep returning the money to his organisation without interest. aur phir woh aapko without interest aapko return karta rehta hai.
  12. Asim says Rozgar gets many people work each month, for example by buying a rickshaw for them or setting someone up with a cart. rozgar har mahine kai logon ko jobs karwata hai ke rickshaw khareed ke deta hai, koi thela lagata hai
  13. Asim says that about 70% of the money was being returned and about 30% was not. Phir yeh dekha ke 70% return aa raha hai, 30% nahi aa raha.
  14. Asim says it was found that only about 2% of the defaulters were deliberately cheating. pata chala ke jo niyatan defaulters hain jo cheat kar rahe hain woh 2% hi hain, isse zyada nahi hai.
  15. Asim says Rozgar is the oldest project and started in 2007, which makes 14 years. Rozgar is the oldest project and started from 2017. Acha, so it's been three, four years, four years. 2007, sorry. 14 years.
  16. Asim says his organisation went into poor areas and opened clinics, and now has six. Toh humne gareeb ilaqon mein jaake clinics kholna shuru kar diye aur is waqt hamare 6 clinics hain.
  17. Asim says his organisation sees 10 to 12,000 patients per month. 10 to 12,000 patients per month hum usmein dekh rahe hote hain.
  18. Asim says the charge was 10 rupees at the start, covering treatment and medicines, and is now 30 rupees. Hum jab shuruat kiya tha toh 10 rupaye lete the jismein ilaaj aur dawaiyan dono dete the. Now it's 30 rupees.
  19. Asim says about 20% of people cannot pay anything, and his organisation does not charge them. Lekin abhi bhi 20% woh hote hain jo kuch bhi nahi de paate toh hum nahi lete unse.
  20. Asim says his organisation's cost is 100 rupees per patient and it takes 30. Toh let's say hamari 100 rupees per patient cost hai but 30 humne le liye.
  21. Asim says the trust does three kinds of things to sustain itself, so that it never closes for financial reasons if he is no longer there. Hamara model yeh hai ke hum teen qisam ki cheezein kar rahe hain isko sustain karne ke liye taake kal main na bhi rahoon toh trust jo hai financials ki wajah se kabhi band na ho.
  22. Asim says about 70% of his charity's projects have become financially self-sustainable. hamari charity al-waseela ke projects 70% self-sustainable ho gaye hain, alhamdulillah financially.
  23. Asim says he hopes the projects will be 100% sustainable within the next two years. Aur humein umeed hai agle do saal mein 100% sustainable ho jayenge.
  24. Asim says his goal was to make the organisation self-sustaining. Mera ek apna target tha ki mujhe organization ko self-sustainable banana hai
  25. Asim says his organisation took a showroom in the upmarket Tariq Road area. So what we did was ke humne Tariq Road ke posh area mein ek showroom liya.
  26. Asim says his organisation employs carpenters and other workers who make items brand new. wahan humne carpenters rakhe hue hain, log rakhe hue hain, usko brand new bana dete hain.
  27. Asim says the people who came were verified as eligible to receive zakat. kaun log aate the jo verified hote the ke yeh log zakat ke mustahikeen hain.
  28. Asim says a poor family can take home a full bedroom set for 20,000 rupees. ek gareeb family aati hai aur 20,000 rupaye mein pura bedroom set le jati hai.
  29. Asim says a man who was moving from America had 20 containers of goods. ek sahab ne humein America se shift ho rahe the, unke 20 fitter containers the.
  30. Asim says that man donated all of his containers to Asim's organisation. He donated all containers to us.
  31. Asim says an item priced at 100 rupees is made available for 80 rupees. toh phir humne rashan ka yeh kiya ke jo 100 rupaye ki cheez hai woh 80 rupaye mein milegi.
  32. Asim says his organisation took on a whole area containing 6,000 houses. Toh wahan pe humne ek pura ilaaqa liya jismein 6000 ghar the.
  33. Asim says the service was priced at 100 rupees per house. Humne 100 rupaye per ghar price kiya.
  34. Asim says his organisation collects garbage from homes three days a week. hum hafte mein teen din aapke ghar se kachra uthayenge
  35. Asim says his organisation cleans the streets and neighbourhood every 15 days. Hum har 15 din mein aapka gali mohalla saaf karenge
  36. Asim says that after a WhatsApp message to his organisation, collection happens within 24 hours. usko aap sirf humein WhatsApp dal dijiye, 24 hours mein woh collection ho jayegi.
  37. Asim says the items go to his organisation's factory, where they are sorted and each one is sold, which makes money for the organisation. Woh jata hai hamare karkhane mein wahan ja ke hum usko sort karte hain, phir individually har cheez ko bechte hain and that makes money for us.
  38. Asim says a company has signed an MOU to give all of its dry waste to his organisation. ICI apna sara dry waste MOU sign kara ke humein de rahi hai
  39. Asim says another organisation is giving its dry waste to his organisation. Awari Towers apna dry waste humein de raha hai
  40. Asim says the governor and his wife invited him to discuss the project. mujhe governor sahab ne unki ahlia ne bhi bulaya is project pe discussion ke liye
  41. Asim says Saya is his organisation's latest project and was launched about six months earlier. Saya hamara latest project hai aaj se koi takreeban 6 mahine pehle humne isko launch kiya.
  42. Asim says a house for the poorest families would cost 25 to 30 lakh rupees to build normally. Gareeb se gareeb ke liye ghar banane jaunga toh 25-30 lakh ka ghar padega.
  43. Asim says a house is ready for 14 to 15 lakh rupees, made up of 6 to 7 lakh for construction and 6 to 7 lakh for land. Which would mean ki humein 6-7 lakh rupaye construction ke, 6-7 lakh rupaye zameen ke, humein 14-15 lakh mein ghar tayar ho gaya.
  44. Asim says his organisation hired people who draw the plans, act as contractors and do the building themselves. Phir humne bande hire kar liye jo ki naqsha bhi khud hi banate hain, thekedar bhi khud hi hain, khud hi khade ho karte hain toh make sure ki cheating koi nahi hogi.
  45. Asim says families pay his organisation the rent they were already paying, such as 8,000, 10,000 or 12,000 rupees depending on the area, for 12 years. jo aap rent de rahe the us ilaaqe ke hisab se 10,000, 8,000, 12,000, woh rent aap humein 12 saal tak dijiye.
  46. Asim says the same house is offered for 3 lakh rupees in Surjani Town and 4 lakh in Orangi. Surjani town mein hum 3 lakh mein de rahe hain, same ghar Orangi mein 4 lakh mein de rahe hain.
  47. Asim says the land is in the family's own name, and they gain a property for life. Apni zameen unke apne naam pe, life time unke paas ek property ban rahi hai
  48. Asim says his organisation invested 13 to 14 lakh rupees, of which 4 lakh came back as a down payment. humne investment ki thi 13-14 lakh ki jismein se down payment 4 lakh rupaye wapis aa gayi.
  49. Asim says he expects his money to come back within two years. Do saal mein mera paisa wapis aa jayega.
  50. Asim says his biggest asset is his team. Toh my biggest asset is my team.
  51. Asim says nobody has left his organisation so far. Al-waseela mein aaj tak koi chhod ke nahi gaya.
  52. Asim says he treats challenges as opportunities. Ek woh hai jisko main opportunity samajhta hun. Kyunki challenge hoga toh opportunity hogi, right?
  53. Asim says the aim is not to reduce the nation further to pauperism. ab qaum ko mazeed fakeer nahi banana.
  54. Asim says the trust aims to help anyone willing to work stand on their own feet. koi banda aisa nahi hai jo kaam karna chahta ho, mehnat karna chahta ho aur hum usko uske pair pe khada na karein.
  55. Asim says salaries have risen by only 3,000 rupees while expenses have doubled. Lekin salary sirf 3,000 badhi hai. Expense double ho gaya hai.
  56. Asim says a person earning 40,000 rupees is also eligible for zakat. jo 40,000 bhi kamata hai na woh bhi zakat ka mustahiq hai.
  57. Asim says the focus had been on one's own ticket to paradise rather than on the effect on another person. yaar apna jannat ka ticket, not rather ke main kisi insaan ke upar kya effect lekar aa raha hun.
  58. Asim says he began to view charity cynically, as a continuous cycle. I started viewing charity in a cynical eye ke yaar yeh toh hum ek continuous cycle bana rahe hain.
  59. Asim says education is a long-term solution for the community. Asal mein education a long term solution hai qaum ke liye.
  60. Asim says his organisation's first batch showed results equal to those of the top schools in Pakistan. hamara pehla batch aur humne prove kar diya ke hamare result top of Pakistan ke jo schools hain unke result ke barabar hai
  61. Asim says a child leaving his programme knows Arabic and tafseer and has studied philosophy and engineering. Hamara bachcha jab nikalta hai toh woh Arabic janta hai, tafseer janta hai, philosophy usne padhi hoti hai, engineering usne padhi hoti hai
  62. Asim says his organisation had a full philosophy subject developed by a man who studied philosophy at Harvard. Humne iske liye poora philosophy ka subject develop karaya bande se jisne Harvard se philosophy padhi hui hai
  63. Asim says his organisation designed a full curriculum, made by Muslims for Muslims with today's challenges in mind. Fajar mein humne isiliye curriculum poora design kiya hai ke yeh musalmanon ke liye musalmanon ne banaya hai aur apne aaj ke challenges ko dekhte hue banaya hai.
  64. Asim says parental training is the most important need after many projects. main samajhta hoon itne saare projects karne ke baad the most important thing which needs to be done is parental trainings.
  65. Asim says parents have become obsolete because media has taken over. Ab parents obsolete ho gaye hain. Hmm. Isliye ke media ne take over kar liya hai
  66. Asim says his organisation adopted two schools, one in Islamabad and one in Pindi. do schools humne adopt kiye hain, ek Islamabad mein, ek Pindi mein
  67. Asim says his vision was to combine education, social work and media for the Ummah. mera jo bigger vision tha which is ke education, social sector, media in teeno ko combine karke big time ummat ke liye dawat-e-kaam kiya jaye.
  68. Asim says his organisation hired an international company to do its branding. To humne international company hire ki, iski branding karayi
  69. Asim says an app and a channel were launched on 19 April. Aur 19 April ko isko humne launch kiya tha. App bhi aur channel bhi
  70. Asim says that they are currently being watched in 126 countries. is waqt 126 mumalik mein hum dekhe ja rahe hain.
  71. Asim says more than 400 videos have been uploaded, including movies, dramas, cartoons, comedies and shows. Aur hamari 400 plus videos up ho chuki hain jismein movies hain, dramas hain, cartoons hain, comedies hain, shows hain.
  72. Asim says animated content is not even 5% of the whole channel. Woh animated content is not even 5% of the whole channel.
  73. Asim says the channel's aim was to be an alternative to mainstream media. iska vision yeh bana tha alternate to mainstream media.