Hashim Syed
AI go-to-market lead at Google
Compiled from 2 recorded interviews. Every statement below is drawn from the passage cited beside it.
Hashim Syed is Google's AI GTM Lead for North America. He helped start a Google team that does go-to-market work for DeepMind, and he has worked at Google for about four and a half years. Born in London, he is originally from Pakistan, and he studied politics, philosophy and economics at university.
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Early life and background
Syed was born in London and grew up there. He lived in the Netherlands for a large part of his childhood. He is originally from Pakistan and has also spent time in the Middle East. He has deep cultural roots in Pakistan and went back and forth between Pakistan and Europe. [1][2]
Education
Syed studied PPE, which covered politics, philosophy and economics, at university. He says he is not technical. He did not expect to work in AI while studying PPE. He later moved from studying philosophy and economics to leading AI strategy at Google. [1][2]
Career
While still a student, Syed started his own consulting firm, after growing frustrated with endless job applications. He has said that mentors and access to industry thought leaders led to his first internship, at EY, in asset wealth management. He also spent 10 weeks at JP Morgan and then decided to pivot, because he liked sales but not fixed income. [1]
Syed says he went to Meta while building his own company through viral distribution and the power of consumer intent, and wanted to learn more about this. He spent time at Meta and then started the UK's first VC startup growth program. Wanting to build again, he became a founding member and co-founder of a health and fitness app. [1][2]
Syed went back into big tech at Microsoft, leading a sales team for financial services. He became an entrepreneur in residence at Antler, saying he again had the itch to build. He has worked continuously for about eight years since his bachelor's degree. [1][2]
Syed is Google's AI GTM Lead for North America. He has worked at Google for about four and a half years. At Google he first led product strategy for Search in the UK, starting in London. He was then selected for a special project in San Francisco. [1][2]
He helped start a Google team that does go-to-market work for DeepMind. He says his team is helping some of the most ambitious founders build and scale on Gemini, and that he works with companies from seed to Series A. He says his current job did not exist three years ago and that he went and found it. He is based in New York but travels a lot, and he says he loves what he does and considers it one of the greatest privileges to be in the unique position of working in a model lab. [1][2]
Work with AI tools
As a nontechnical person, Syed has said he was asking what coding is and what an agent is at the start of 2025. He has said he did not have any friends when he moved to San Francisco, and that he built an AI agent for scheduling with the sole purpose of being able to go to hackathons. He says he also builds his own AI tools. He uses a team of AI agents for his work but still meets clients himself, and he says he has trained an AI agent with his voice and face, but it is still not him. [1][2]
Views on AI and work
Syed says AI-related roles grew by about a thousand percent year over year and that AI labs are hiring for storytellers and content managers. He compares the AI shift to the internet age, when social media and digital marketing jobs appeared, and says new AI roles are creating a whole new industry. He is more optimistic than doom-minded about the job changes AI will bring to the industry. [1][2]
He says human skills such as empathy, critical thinking and leadership are durable, and that people need to focus on human skills and turbocharge them with AI-native skills. He says you have to be highly adaptable. He says people can outsource intelligence to AI but cannot outsource understanding. [1][2]
His advice to newcomers is to talk to an AI model, describe their work and ask it to teach them. He says he learned AI this way as a non-technical person. He says anything an AI model says should be questioned, as he was taught in philosophy. He says people should be curious learners about AI in this window before AGI arrives. [1][2]
Views on startups and enterprise AI
Syed says companies once had five to seven years to reach 100 million in annual recurring revenue, while in the AI-native environment tools such as Cursor reach that same scale in five to seven months. He borrows Bessemer Venture Partners' idea of supernova companies that grow to 40 million ARR in a year, and describes typical SaaS companies as shooting stars. He says there is no rule for how fast a company must grow, and he learned this as a founder. He says a startup does not need a minimal viable product but a minimum lovable product. [1][2]
He has said he did not want to burn lots of money on advertising and went to market by turning up at gyms and giving out flyers. He says efficiency is now table stakes, and that every startup and enterprise company is focused on AI. He says the question is how to re-engineer and redesign end-to-end processes, a subject he says can be discussed through agent orchestrations. He asks how AI can do more than baseline productivity and deliver new areas of growth. [1][2]
He says governance and education are the enablers for scaling go-to-market with AI, and defines shadow AI as staff using AI tools in unlicensed ways at work. He says enterprise risk management matters for both large and small companies, and that data inside Google's enterprise platform belongs to the customer, who owns and controls it. [1][2]
He says token cost matters to customers at every stage, from seed startups to large enterprises, and describes token cost as somewhat the bottleneck for agentic systems. He says peak frontier models can be too expensive for sub-agent tasks. He compares AI agent teams to human teams, with a manager and specialists underneath, and says the model that runs the team's brain differs from the model that serves individual sub-agents. He says the aim is to align the right model to the right workflow and the right user. [1][2]
He says 2025 and 2026 are the years of vertical AI, with agents built for specific industries. He says real value is usually customized to many different workflows, and that the real winner will be the founder who builds the best workflow integration and product experience on top of models. He says AI systems should be seen as collaborative partners rather than scary systems. [1][2]
Views on models and technology
Syed describes Gemma as Google's open-source model within the Google ecosystem, and says it is cheap and fast and that developers can host and fine-tune it themselves. He says open source and closed source are not a zero-sum choice, and the world needs both. He says the real question is the right model for each use case, not closed versus open. He says Google's strategy is to be the hyperscaler that offers both closed and open models, that its platform is interoperable so builders can use whatever model they choose, and that Google wants to be the hyperscaler for the entire stack. He says Google is one of Anthropic's biggest partners and has trained and run Anthropic on GPUs. [1][2]
He says Gemini has always operated in the middle of the frontier of price to intelligence, and that it is one of the best models on the market for multimodality. He says Gemini Live is available in most languages around the world and that AI needs localising to different markets, cultures and languages. He says Gemini Enterprise is live in 90% of Fortune 100 companies, and that a range of startups use Gemini and Google for Startups credits. He recommends Google AI Studio for prototyping. [1][2]
He says much of the world is stuck without the foundational data layer AI needs, not because of model access. He says scaling up text-predicting LLMs will soon reach its peak, that world models are the next step because they understand physics and spatial logic, and that deep-thinking agents are given more time and compute to test options before answering. He says AlphaFold is a real breakthrough that solved 3D protein structure prediction. [1]
He sees physical AI and robotics as the new frontier in AI, and expects humanoid robots and autonomous vehicles to be more common in daily life. He says the world will look very different in five years and that we are in a precious window before AGI arrives. [2]
Pakistan
Syed says Pakistan is the world's third largest exporter of IT freelancers, and argues it is better placed than non-technical markets to become AI native. He says Google has worked with many Pakistani companies on Gemini Enterprise training and licences, and is working with companies in Pakistan on safe and secure AI in the workplace. He says Google has led a fellowship with Googlers from around the world, including Singapore teams, working with companies inside Pakistan. He says Google recently ran a nationwide coding competition focused on AI enablement and trained almost up to 100,000 people through AI. [1][2]
Future plans
Syed says he expects to return to building in the near future and hopes to return to the founder ecosystem as things calm down. He has said he is talking to a lot of VCs and investors these days. He has ideas in physical AI that he would like to explore. [1]
Timeline
- 2025
- Asked what vibe coding and an AI agent were, at the start of the year[1]
Appearances
| Date | Title | Where |
|---|---|---|
| 2026-08-12 | You can outsource intelligence, but not understanding | Beyond the Bubble |
| 2026-08-07 | You can outsource intelligence, not understanding | Thought Behind Things |
Frequently asked questions
Who is Hashim Syed?
Hashim Syed is Google's AI GTM Lead for North America. He helped start a Google team that does go-to-market work for DeepMind. He was born in London and is originally from Pakistan.[1][2]
What does Hashim Syed do?
Hashim Syed is Google's AI GTM Lead for North America. He says his team is helping some of the most ambitious founders build and scale on Gemini. He says he works with companies from seed to Series A.[1][2]
Where did Hashim Syed study?
Hashim Syed studied politics, philosophy and economics at university. He studied PPE, which covered those three subjects.[1][2]
Where is Hashim Syed from?
Hashim Syed was born in London and grew up there. He is originally from Pakistan and has also spent time in the Middle East. He lived in the Netherlands for a large part of his childhood.[1]
Which companies has Hashim Syed worked for?
Hashim Syed had a first internship at EY and spent ten weeks at JP Morgan. He spent time at Meta, led a sales team for financial services at Microsoft, and became an entrepreneur in residence at Antler. He has worked at Google for about four and a half years.[1][2]
What is Hashim Syed known for?
Hashim Syed is known as Google's AI GTM Lead for North America. He started the UK's first VC startup growth program and co-founded a health and fitness app. He also helped start a Google go-to-market team for DeepMind.[1][2]
Where is Hashim Syed based?
Hashim Syed is based in New York but travels a lot. At Google he first led product strategy for Search in the UK, starting in London.[1]
References
- You can outsource intelligence, but not understanding . Beyond the Bubble , 2026-08-12.
- You can outsource intelligence, not understanding . Thought Behind Things , 2026-08-07.
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- He was born in London and grew up there.
I was born in London. I grew up there.
- He lived in the Netherlands for a large part of his childhood.
I also lived in the Netherlands for a large part of my childhood
- He is originally from Pakistan and has also spent time in the Middle East.
But, I'm originally from Pakistan. You know, I also spent a little bit of time in the Middle East, sometime also in Pakistan.
- He says he is not technical and studied politics, philosophy and economics at university.
I was not technical. I studied politics, philosophy, economics at university.
- He studied PPE, which covered politics, philosophy and economics.
when I was studying PPE, politics, philosophy, economics, learning about logic and reason argument
- He started his own consulting firm while still a student, after growing frustrated with endless job applications.
So, frustrated by, you know, endless job applications, I started building my own consulting firm when I was a student
- He has said that mentors and access to industry thought leaders led to his first internship, at EY, in asset wealth management.
which led me to have um incredible mentors and access to industry thought leaders that led to my first internship at uh EY doing asset wealth management
- His first internship was at EY, in asset wealth management.
that led to my first internship at uh EY doing asset wealth management.
- He spent 10 weeks at JP Morgan and then decided to pivot, because he liked sales but not fixed income.
I did 10 weeks at JP Morgan. Realized I like sales, uh but I don't enjoy fixed income. So, that was like I need to pivot out of this.
- He says he went to Meta while building his own company through viral distribution and the power of consumer intent, and wanted to learn more about this.
But, I went to Meta because I was like at the time I'm building my company through viral distribution and the power of consumer intent. And I said I want to learn more about this
- He started the UK's first VC startup growth program.
I started the UK's first uh VC startup growth program.
- He wanted to build again, so he became a founding member and co-founder of a fitness app.
From there, I got the itch to want to build again, so went to be a founding member co-founder of a fitness app.
- He has said he did not want to burn lots of money on advertising and went to market by turning up at gyms and giving out flyers.
I don't want to burn lots of money on ad dollars. I want to be very careful about how I go to market, and everything that I was doing with my go-to-market, I was, you know, turning up at gyms, giving out flyers.
- He then joined Microsoft to lead a sales team for financial services.
And then from there, went back into big tech at Microsoft looking leading uh a sales team for financial services.
- He became an entrepreneur in residence at Antler, saying he again had the itch to build.
But again, that itch to want to build, so I left that again to uh go into Antler. Being an entrepreneur in residence.
- He has worked at Google for about four and a half years.
And I've been at Google for the last uh 4 and 1/2 years starting off in London
- At Google he first led product strategy for Search in the UK, starting in London.
starting off in London leading our product strategy in the UK for search.
- He was then selected for a special project in San Francisco.
From there, got selected for a special project in San Francisco.
- He helped start a new go-to-market team for DeepMind.
But also then we help start this new team that just does go-to-market for DeepMind, basically.
- He says his team is helping some of the most ambitious founders build and scale on Gemini.
So, we're helping some of the most ambitious founders right now build and scale on Gemini.
- He says he works with companies from seed to Series A.
And I'm talking from companies from seed to series A.
- He is based in New York but travels a lot.
I'm in New York. I'm in New York, but I travel a lot.
- He says he loves what he does and considers it one of the greatest privileges to be in the unique position of working in a model lab.
I love what I do. I feel it's one of the greatest privileges to be in this unique position where you're in a model lab
- He expects to return to building in the near future.
I think in some, you know, near future, I will be back to iterating and and building.
- He hopes to return to the founder ecosystem as things calm down.
hopefully soon, as things start to calm down, I will be hopefully getting back into the, you know, founder ecosystem space.
- He has said he is talking to a lot of VCs and investors these days.
whether that's new sectors like applied and physical AI, or I'm talking to a lot of VCs and investors these days.
- He has ideas in physical AI that he would like to explore.
I have some ideas in physical AI that I'd like to explore.
- He has said he did not have any friends when he moved to San Francisco, and that he built an AI agent for scheduling with the sole purpose of being able to go to hackathons.
I didn't have any friends when I moved to SF. So, I built uh an AI agent for scheduling with the sole purpose just to be able to go to hackathons
- He has worked continuously for about eight years since his bachelor's degree.
I've worked, you know, continuously for coming up to maybe eight years post my bachelor's.
- He has said he did not think he would be in AI.
I did not think uh I would be in AI
- His current job did not exist three years ago, and he went and found it.
my job didn't exist 3 years ago. I went and found that job.
- He says he thinks AI-related roles grew by about 1,000 percent year over year.
there was like a 1,000% year-over-year growth through AI-related roles.
- He says AI labs are hiring for storytellers and content managers.
AI labs are hiring for storytellers or content managers.
- He is more optimistic than doom-minded about the job changes AI will bring to the industry.
I'm I'm I'm right now still more optimistic about that than I am sort of, you know, kind of doom about the industry.
- He says human skills such as empathy, critical thinking and leadership are durable.
those are the durable skills, you know, like human empathy, um critical thinking, leadership
- He uses a team of AI agents for his work but still meets clients himself.
I have a team of agents that I use to do my work, but it's still me sitting with a client, right? It's not my agent.
- He says companies once had five to seven years to reach 100 million in annual recurring revenue, while in the AI-native environment tools such as Cursor reach that same scale in five to seven months.
companies had like 5 to 7 years to reach 100 million AR, annual recurring revenue. In this AI-native environment, you know, you're seeing tools like Cursor, Replit, lovable, and others reach that same scale in 5 to 7 months.
- He says a startup does not need a minimal viable product but a minimum lovable product.
You don't need a minimal viable product, you need a minimum lovable product.
- He says efficiency is now table stakes, and that every startup and enterprise company is focused on AI.
efficiency is now table stakes. Every startup, every enterprise company is focused on AI.
- He says the question is how to re-engineer and redesign end-to-end processes, a subject he says can be discussed through agent orchestrations.
How do you really re-engineer and redesign end-to-end processes and we can talk about this like through, you know, agent orchestrations
- He says governance and education are the enablers for scaling go-to-market with AI.
governance and education is the enabler. You cannot scale uh gate GTM without, you know, solving things like shadow AI
- He defines shadow AI as staff using AI tools in unlicensed ways at work.
shadow AI is basically you're working at a company, but you're using AI tools in unlicensed ways
- He says enterprise risk management matters for both large and small companies.
enterprise risk management is important, irrespective if you're a like a large company or a small company.
- He says everything a company does inside Google's enterprise platform is that company's data.
everything you do inside of our enterprise platform is your data, you own it
- He says token cost matters to customers at every stage, from seed startups to large enterprises.
irrespective of their startup, seed, series A, trillion-dollar enterprise company, whatever it might be, everyone is like the the cost of tokens matters.
- He says the aim is to align the right model to the right workflow and the right user.
we need to align the right model to the right workflow, and the right user.
- He says Gemini has always operated in the middle of the frontier of price to intelligence.
Gemini's is always operated kind of in the middle at the producer frontier of price to intelligence.
- He describes Gemma as Google's open-source model within the Google ecosystem.
So, we have Gemma. Gemma is our open-source model from the Google ecosystem.
- He says Gemma is cheap and fast, and developers can host and fine-tune it themselves.
It's cheaper, it's fast. You can host it on on your own on your own servers, fine-tune it, train it as you need, and then ship it.
- He says Google's strategy is to be the hyperscaler that offers both closed and open models.
the world needs both for different use cases, and that's what, you know, Google's strategy really is is to be the hyperscaler that offers that.
- He says Google is one of Anthropic's biggest partners and has trained and run Anthropic on GPUs.
one of Anthropic's biggest partners, right? We have trained and run Anthropic on GPUs.
- He says the winning founder will build the best workflow integration and product experience on top of models.
the real founder the real winner in this market will be the founder who builds the best workflow integration and product experience sitting on top of models.
- He says open source and closed source are not a zero-sum choice, and the world needs both.
I don't think it's a zero-sum, like, binary between open source and closed source. I think the world genuinely needs both
- He says Gemini is one of the best models on the market for multimodality.
Gemini even, it's one of the best models, if not the best one on the market for multimodality.
- He says Gemini Live is available in most languages around the world.
Gemini Live, phenomenal model. If you haven't tried it, um you know, it's available in most language around the world.
- He says AI needs localising to different markets, cultures and languages.
the importance of localizing AI to different markets, different cultures, and different languages.
- He says much of the world is stuck without the foundational data layer AI needs, not because of model access.
much of the world is stuck not because they don't they don't have access to the frontier models or whatever models. They're stuck because they don't have the foundational layer that enables AI in the first place.
- He says scaling up text-predicting LLMs will soon reach its peak.
we will soon reach, I think, the pinnacle or the peak of what's simply scaling up um text guessing text guessing transformers or LLMs.
- He says world models are the next step, because they understand physics and spatial logic.
that's where, you know, we'll get into models that can understand actual physics, uh spatial logic, um and like the dynamics of the world.
- He says deep-thinking agents are given more time and compute to test options before answering.
you're seeing the rise of deep thinking agents where agents you're giving agents more time, compute power to really internally simulate multiple options
- He says AlphaFold is a real breakthrough that solved 3D protein structure prediction.
The real breakthroughs are things like AlphaFold, right? Which solved for uh which solved three deep 3D protein structure prediction.
- He says people should be curious learners about AI in this window before AGI arrives.
And this is where as an individual we need to be curious learners about the technology and how we can apply it.
- He says anything an AI model says should be questioned, as he was taught in philosophy.
anything that anyone says, I was taught in philosophy you should question it.
- He says the best way to start with AI is to talk to it and ask it to teach you.
My advice is just talk to it. Just literally press the voice icon, describe who you are, what you do, and what you're stuck with, and ask it to teach you.
- He says he learned AI this way as a non-technical person.
And as a non-technical person, that's exactly how I learned.
- He says people can outsource intelligence to AI but cannot outsource understanding.
you can outsource intelligence, but you can't outsource understanding.
- He first asked what vibe coding and an AI agent were at the start of 2025.
What is vibe coding? What is an agent?" Back at the start of 2025.
- He says Gemini Enterprise is live in 90% of Fortune 100 companies.
Gemini Enterprise, which is, you know, Google's enterprise solution for AI in the workplace, now live in 90% of Fortune 100s.
- He says Google has worked with many Pakistani companies on Gemini Enterprise training and licences.
we've been working with lots of different companies of Pakistan, you know, through Gemini Enterprise trainings, licenses
- He says Google has led a fellowship with Googlers from around the world, including Singapore teams, working with companies inside Pakistan.
we've been leading like a fellowship specifically focused on that where we've got Googlers all across the world from our Singapore teams as well working with companies inside of Pakistan
- He says Google recently ran a nationwide coding competition focused on AI enablement and trained almost up to 100,000 people through AI.
we recently ran EIC nationwide live coding competition focused on AI enablement. Uh We trained almost up to 100,000 people through AI.
- He says there is no rule for how fast a company must grow, and he learned this as a founder.
I think there's no rule for that, and I learned that also myself as a founder.
- He borrows Bessemer Venture Partners' idea of supernova companies that grow to 40 million ARR in a year.
I'm going to steal this from Bessemer uh Bessemer Venture Partners. They think of companies as twofold, right? You have like supernovas which are like your hyper growth, you know, they can reach like 40 million ARR in in a year
- He says AI systems should be seen as collaborative partners rather than scary systems.
These are not scary systems, right? These are just systems that mimic us or created by us. And you should use it as your kind of collaborative partner.
- He says 2025 and 2026 are the years of vertical AI, with agents built for specific industries.
2025, 2026 will be like vertical AI really maximizing, you know, as a vertical AI is just AI agents deployed for a specific industry
- He says autonomous vehicles and humanoids will become more prevalent in everyday life.
Uh autonomous vehicles, um humanoids will be more prevalent in our life.
- He says he also builds his own AI tools.
Built again my own AI tools too.
- He spent a large part of his childhood in the Netherlands.
I also live in the Netherlands for a large part of my childhood
- He is originally from Pakistan and has deep cultural roots there.
I'm originally from Pakistan you know I also spend a little bit of time in the Middle East sometime also in Pakistan and deep cultural roots
- He went back and forth between Pakistan and Europe.
I would constantly go back and forth um to Pakistan but also Europe
- He studied politics, philosophy and economics at university.
I was not technical I studied politics philosophy economics at university
- He has a bachelor's degree and says he has worked for about eight years since.
I've worked, you know, continuously for coming up to maybe 8 years post my bachelors
- He started building his own consulting firm while still a student.
I started building my own consulting firm when I was a student
- He spent ten weeks at JP Morgan.
I did 10 weeks at JP Morgan
- He joined Meta while building his own company through viral distribution.
I went to Meta because I was like at the time I'm building my company through viral distribution and the bolus of consumer intent
- He spent time at Meta, then started the UK's first VC startup growth program.
I spent some time at Meta. I started the UK's first uh VC startup growth program
- He left to build again and became a co-founder of a fitness app.
I got the itch to want to build again So went to be a founding member co-founder of a fitness app
- He co-founded a health and fitness app.
building my fitness app um it's called magic mountain you know health and fitness app
- He then went back into big tech at Microsoft, leading a sales team for financial services.
went back into big tech at Microsoft looking leading uh a sales team for financial services
- He has worked at Google for four and a half years.
I've been at Google for the last four and a half years
- At Google he first led product strategy for Search in the UK, based in London.
Start off in London leading our product strategy in the UK for search
- He helped start a Google team that does go-to-market work for DeepMind, helping founders build and scale on Gemini.
we help start this new team that just does go to market for deep mind basically so we're helping some of the most ambitious founders right now build and scale on Gemini
- He says he expects to be back to iterating and building in the near future.
I think in some near future I will be back to iterating and and building
- When he moved to San Francisco he did not know vibe coding and had no friends there.
I never knew what V coding was. I didn't have any friends when I moved to SF
- He built an AI scheduling agent with the purpose of going to hackathons.
So I built uh an AI agent for scheduling with the sole purpose just to be able to go to hackathon
- He asks how AI can do more than baseline productivity and deliver new areas of growth.
how does AI not only do baseline productivity but how do you get like new areas of growth
- He says governance and education are the enablers for scaling go-to-market, including shadow AI.
governance and education is the enabler You cannot scale uh GT GTM without you know solving for things like shadow AI
- He says Google is working with companies in Pakistan on safe and secure AI in the workplace.
what we've been doing recently with companies in Pakistan is looking at that how do we bring safe and secure AI in the workplace
- He says Google recently ran a nationwide coding competition focused on AI enablement.
we recently ran AICO nationwide vibe coding competition focused on AI enablement
- He says Google trained almost up to 100,000 people in AI.
we trained almost up to 100,000 people through uh AI
- His advice to newcomers is to talk to an AI model, describe their work and ask it to teach them.
my advice is just talk to it just literally press the voice icon describe who you are what you do and what you're stuck with and ask it to teach you
- As a nontechnical person, he has said he was asking what coding is and what an agent is at the start of 2025.
as a nontechnical person that's exactly how I learned you know I was like what is coding what is an agent back at the start of 2025
- He says you can outsource intelligence but not understanding.
you can outsource intelligence but you can't outsource understanding
- He says a range of startups use Gemini and Google for Startups credits.
we have a whole range of startups also using you know Gemini and Google for startups and our credit program
- He says Pakistan is the world's third largest exporter of IT freelancers.
Pakistan for example one of the world's you know the world's third largest exporter of IT freelancers
- He argues Pakistan is better placed than non-technical markets to become AI native.
Pakistan for example one of the world's you know the world's third largest exporter of IT freelancers that's a very unique market and I would argue argue is in a better position to shift and become AI native than a market that's not technically native
- He says new AI roles are creating a whole new industry.
roles like um you know AI augmented services of AI product managers AI GTM uh AI engineers uh AI testers like there's a whole new industry being built
- He says he uses a team of AI agents to do his work.
I have a team of agents that I use to do my work
- He says he has trained an AI agent with his voice and face, but it is still not him.
I've trained an agent with my voice and my face to you know speak like me and be like me but it's still not me
- He says we need to focus on human skills and turbocharge them with AI-native skills.
we need to focus on human skills and just really turbocharge them with AI native skills and AI builders
- He says he is more optimistic about the industry than doomed about it.
I'm right now still more optimistic about that than I am sort of, you know, kind of doomed about the industry
- He says his own job did not exist three years ago.
my job didn't exist 3 years ago
- He says you have to be highly adaptable.
you just have to be highly adaptable
- He did not expect to work in AI while studying PPE.
PPE policy economics learning about logic and reason argument in my philosophy lectures or studying machavelli and you know um I did not think I would be in AI
- He compares the AI shift to the internet age, when social media and digital marketing jobs appeared.
pre- internet age there was no job of the social media manager or digital marketing and in the 2000s 2010s that became one of the most prolific and sought after jobs
- He says AI-related roles grew by about a thousand percent year over year.
there was like a thousand% year-over-year growth through AI related roles
- He says customers of every size now care about token costs.
irrespective of their startup seed series a trillion dollar enterprise company whatever it might be everyone is like the the cost of tokens matters
- He says token cost is somewhat the bottleneck for agentic systems.
I think token cost is somewhat the agentic bottleneck
- He says peak frontier models can be too expensive for sub-agent tasks.
peak frontier models can be too expensive for those sub agent tasks
- He compares AI agent teams to human teams, with a manager and specialists underneath.
you'd have a manager then you'd have maybe a couple of IC's underneath and everyone specialized in different tasks
- He says the model that runs the team's brain differs from the model that serves individual sub-agents.
you need like the agent that builds the brain of your team the sorry the model that serves the brain agent of your AI team is very different to the model that serves like the individual IC's or individual sub agents
- He says Google's platform is interoperable, so builders can use whatever model they choose.
it's interoperable that you can come you can build using whatever model whatever technology you like on this
- He says Google wants to be the hyperscaler for the entire stack.
we want to be the hyperscaler that you know caters for the entire stack
- He says Google is one of Anthropic's biggest partners and has trained and run Anthropic on GPUs.
Anthropic's biggest partners, right? We have trained and run anthropic on GPUs
- He says the real winner will be the founder who builds the best workflow integration and product experience on top of models.
the real founder the real winner in this market will be the founder who builds the best workflow integration and product experience
- He says the real question is the right model for each use case, not closed versus open.
what is the right model for the right use case as opposed to closed versus open
- He says the world needs both open and closed models.
I don't think it's a zero sum like binary between open source and closer I think the world genuinely needs both
- He says Gemma is Google's open-source model.
Gemma is our open source model from the Google ecosystem
- He says Gemma is cheaper and fast, and can be hosted on your own servers.
It's cheaper, it's fast, you can host it on on your own on your own servers
- He says Gemini has always been positioned in the middle of the price-to-intelligence curve.
Gemini is always operated kind of in the middle at the parita frontier price to intelligence
- He says data inside Google's enterprise platform belongs to the customer, who owns and controls it.
everything you do inside of our enterprise platform is your data You own it you control it
- He recommends Google AI Studio for prototyping.
if you're a developer and you're prototyping you can use Google AI studio to like just experiment
- He says Gemini Live is available in most languages.
Gemini live phenomenal model if you haven't tried it um you know it's available in mo most languages
- He says localizing AI to different markets, cultures and languages is becoming more important.
the importance of localizing AI to different markets different cultures and different languages
- He says anything an AI model outputs should be questioned and critically analysed.
anything that anyone says I was taught in philosophy you should question it like critically analyze it and assess it
- He says the world will look very different in five years.
even in 5 years from now I think the world is going to look very different to what it looks right now
- He expects humanoid robots and autonomous vehicles to be more common in daily life.
autonomous vehicles um humanoids will be more prevalent in our life and in our personal life and in our work life
- He sees physical AI and robotics as the new frontier in AI.
physical AI, robotics gets very interesting. And I think for me, I think that will be the new frontier in, you know, in AI
- He says world models will be able to understand physics and spatial logic.
that's where you know we'll get into models that can understand actual physics uh spatial logic
- He says scaling up text-prediction LLMs will soon reach its peak.
we will soon reach, I think, the pinnacle or the peak of what simply scaling up um text guessing
- He says deep thinking agents give AI more time and compute to simulate options.
you're seeing the rise of deep thinking agents where agents you're giving agents more time compute power to really internally simulate multiple options
- He cites AlphaFold as a real breakthrough.
things like AlphaFold right which solved for uh which solved 3D 3D protein structure prediction
- He says we are in a precious window before AGI arrives.
we're in this precious window right now before AGI arrives
- He describes typical SaaS companies as shooting stars.
your shooting stars who are more you know like typical kind of SAS companies
- He says a startup needs a minimum lovable product, not just a minimum viable one.
you don't need a minimal viable product you need a minimum lovable product
- He says real value is usually customized to many different workflows.
real value more often than not is customized tailored to millions of different workflows
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