Adeel Raza

co-founder of Salams, formerly Minder

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Adeel Raza is the co-founder & Board member of Salams (formerly Minder). Raza was born in Lahore. He got his first computer in 1993 and says he taught himself programming.

Early life and background

Raza was born in Lahore. He got his first computer in 1993 and says he taught himself programming. He started programming by creating bots for MIRC. He says the self-learning he developed came from being left alone with computers and the internet. [1]

Education

Raza attended Beaconhouse Garden Town and Punjab College for school, then a university for graduation. He graduated in 2009 with a bachelor's degree in business and information technology. He does not have a computer science degree. [1]

Early ventures

Raza ran a t-shirt business that sold about 30 shirts a day. Orkut was the main sales channel for the business. He built a social network called Lounge, which reached 10,000 users within six months. He and his team also built a software startup called Jigsaw. [1]

contactme.com and the move to the United States

Raza built contactme.com, a CRM for small businesses. Webs.com, a subsidiary of Vistaprint, acquired contactme.com. He describes Haroon as a successful entrepreneur running webs.com. A partnership developed, after which webs.com decided to acquire the whole company. Raza attributes the acquisition to product-market fit. [1]

Raza and his co-founder were moved to the US and worked there until they got green cards. He moved to the United States right after graduation, when contactme.com was acquired. His first trip to the US was on a business visa, and an application was made for his H1B work visa. He moved to the US for good in 2011. [1]

Mailmunch

Raza started Mailmunch with a co-founder who was a friend from Beaconhouse Garden Town. He describes Mailmunch as an email marketing platform. He says the Mailmunch team is based in Lahore. It took almost a year from founding Mailmunch until he left his job, and he left only after one of his startups earned about what he had been making. [1]

Raza says he never wanted a job and wanted to be an entrepreneur. He is sure he would not have been hired by Google with his skill set. [1]

Approach to building companies

Raza says each of his products has a different co-founder. He and his co-founders built the first versions of Minder, Mailmunch and Unlayer themselves. Pop-ups from one of his companies reached a billion views in its first year. [1]

Raza says he was a strong developer but weak in sales and marketing before he moved to the US. He learned sales after moving to the US. He describes himself mainly as a product person. [1]

Minder and Salams

The name Minder came from Muslim Tinder. Raza says Minder went viral partly because of its name. Minder was rebranded as Salams to get rid of the Tinder connotation. [1]

Raza describes Salams, formerly Minder, as one of the largest Muslim matchmaking apps in the world. He says it has almost 5 million active users and between 250,000 and 400,000 reported marriages. He says its complete focus is marriage and that it is subscription-based, like other matchmaking apps. [1]

Raza says Muslims are very scattered, especially in the US. He says Salams is popular in Dubai but focused mostly on the Western world. He says the Salams team is based entirely in the US. [1]

Unlayer

Unlayer began in 2017. It was first built to meet Mailmunch's own need for a drag-and-drop content builder. Raza spoke with a technical friend, who had taught him coding, about building a drag-and-drop builder. The friend sent him a prototype the next day. [1]

Raza describes Unlayer as a content creation platform and as a white-label drag-and-drop builder. He says anyone can embed Unlayer's builder into their marketing automation software. He says Unlayer works in two-week sprints and updates the product in each one, and that it added AI features, such as suggestions for headings. [1]

Raza says Unlayer offers multi-year contracts to enterprises and monthly subscriptions to SMBs. He says Netflix is an Unlayer customer and that its clients include Fidelity and IBM. He says Unlayer's enterprise clients came to them inbound, and that Unlayer used the Y Combinator network to reach enterprise clients. He says enterprises could build the product in-house for about half a million dollars, or license it. [1]

Raza says all of his companies except Unlayer are bootstrapped. He says Unlayer is currently valued at $60 million and raised a seed round that it will announce in a few months. Unlayer is now on the venture capital route, with Series A and B rounds next. [1]

Views on startups and product companies

Raza says a problem solved for yourself can be solved for other people too. He says they did no customer research at the beginning. He says people underrate domain knowledge, which he thinks is 90% of what matters. He says timing is the number one reason startups fail. [1]

Raza says raising money is not always the right choice and can damage a company, and he is glad his companies did not take the funding route. He says first-time founders focus on product, and second-time founders focus on distribution. He says building a good product and putting it in the App Store can carry a company to its first million in annual recurring revenue. He says reaching a first million in revenue is not that hard, and he has done it four times on his own. He says growth hacks are not sustainable. He says Y Combinator is most useful for founders who are new to the game, and he is still very bullish on micro SaaS. [1]

Raza says a founder needs breadth across sales, marketing, customer success, product and QA. He fundamentally believes in product companies. He says services companies sell a person's hours, like any labor job. He thinks services work will diminish and product work will increase considerably. He says a developer who uses GitHub Copilot already outperforms one who does not. [1]

Views on Pakistan

Raza advises smart people in Pakistan to spend a few months in Dubai for exposure. He says letting Pakistanis go abroad could make them partners and sales agents. He says graduates with strong skills should aim for startups that bring in dollars. [1]

Raza says Pakistan's youth population only matters if the country gives it direction. He says he is optimistic about Pakistan overall. He thinks Pakistan will survive, though perhaps not thrive quickly. [1]

Mentor and plans

Haroon was Raza's mentor and had recently sold Truebill. Raza says his focus for the next few years is growing his companies into bigger ones. [1]

Personal life

Raza is married and has a daughter. His youngest child was born in 2015. He says his wife was supportive of his entrepreneurship from the start. [1]

Raza says he was completely absent from family life in the early startup years. He worked 18 to 19 hour days in the early years. He says it would be better for his family if he focused on work and his wife stayed at home. [1]

Raza has enrolled his children in a Montessori school. He says parents should give children good education and fundamentals, then let them figure things out. [1]

Timeline

2009
Graduated with a bachelor's degree in business and information technology.[1]
2011
Moved to the United States for good.[1]
2015
His youngest child was born.[1]
2017
Unlayer began.[1]

Appearances

DateTitleWhere
2023-05-26 The Pakistani founder who bootstrapped three global startups Thought Behind Things

Frequently asked questions

Where did Adeel Raza study?

Adeel Raza attended Beaconhouse Garden Town and Punjab College for school, then a university for graduation. He graduated in 2009 with a bachelor's degree in business and information technology. He does not have a computer science degree.[1]

Where is Adeel Raza from?

Adeel Raza was born in Lahore. He moved to the United States for good in 2011.[1]

What is Salams, the app Adeel Raza co-founded?

Adeel Raza describes Salams, formerly Minder, as one of the largest Muslim matchmaking apps in the world. He says it has almost 5 million active users. He says it is subscription-based, like other matchmaking apps.[1]

References

  1. The Pakistani founder who bootstrapped three global startups . Thought Behind Things , 2023-05-26.
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  1. He was born in Lahore. I was born in Lahore, lived all my life in Lahore.
  2. He attended Beaconhouse Garden Town and Punjab College for school, then a university for graduation. Uh, so schooling, Beaconhouse Garden Town, um, then I went to Punjab College and then I went to University of Management Technology for graduation.
  3. He graduated in 2009 with a bachelor's degree in business and information technology. Bachelors of Business and Information Technology. Right. And yeah, I graduated in 2009.
  4. He does not have a computer science degree. Degree, I don't have a computer science degree.
  5. He got his first computer in 1993. I think I got my first computer in 1993 when I was, I think, I don't know, 10 saal, pata nahi.
  6. He says he taught himself programming. I learned it, uh, pretty much myself.
  7. He started programming by creating bots for MIRC. I MIRC se I started creating bots, woh jo hoti thi MIRC pe.
  8. He ran a t-shirt business that sold about 30 shirts a day. Toh mera bhi ek t-shirt startup tha and we were selling almost 30 t-shirts per day. It was called A-Rage.
  9. Orkut was the main sales channel for his t-shirt business. Toh Orkut was our primary sales channel.
  10. He built a social network called Lounge. maine phir ek social network bhi banaya, Lounge, us waqt naam tha.
  11. Lounge reached 10,000 users within six months. 10,000 users ho gaye first 6 months mein.
  12. He and his team built a software startup called Jigsaw. ek software startup humne banaya Jigsaw ke naam se.
  13. He built contactme.com, a CRM for small businesses. I was building a startup called contactme.com. It was a CRM for small businesses.
  14. Webs.com, a subsidiary of Vistaprint, acquired contactme.com. it got acquired by this company called webs.com, which is a subsidiary of Vistaprint
  15. He describes Haroon as a successful entrepreneur running webs.com. His name is Haroon. Super smart guy, Harvard grad, Harvard Law ka grad, running webs.com, successful entrepreneur.
  16. A partnership developed, after which webs.com decided to acquire the whole company. then it turned into a partnership and then they decided to acquire the whole company.
  17. He attributes the acquisition to product-market fit. Lekin I think I would attribute it to product market fit.
  18. He and his co-founder were moved to the US and worked there until they got green cards. They just move me and my co-founder to the US aur hum log basically wahan pe job kar rahe the until we got our green cards.
  19. His first trip to the US was on a business visa. the first time I traveled on a business visa.
  20. He moved to the United States right after graduation, when contactme.com was acquired. that's how I moved to the US right after graduation.
  21. An application was made for his H1B work visa. applied for my H1B which is a work visa.
  22. He moved to the US for good in 2011. I got in us pe aur I moved in 2011 for good.
  23. He started Mailmunch with a co-founder who was a friend from Beaconhouse Garden Town. I started Mail Munch with my co-founder who's who's also my one of the best friends from Beaconhouse Garden Town.
  24. It took almost a year from founding Mailmunch until he left his job. it took us almost one year uh from founding Mail Munch to me leaving my job
  25. He left his job only after one of his startups earned about what he had been making. I didn't quit the job until one of my startups started making almost the same money that I was making
  26. He is married. Toh usko I I my wife Rabia usko on board liya.
  27. He has a daughter. Um and I had a daughter Inaya.
  28. His youngest child was born in 2015. My youngest one was born in 2015.
  29. He says his wife was supportive of his entrepreneurship from the start. But luckily my wife, extremely supportive, she was shuru se usko pata tha ki yeh I am getting into an entrepreneur's life.
  30. He says he never wanted a job and wanted to be an entrepreneur. Toh woh toh clear tha ki job nahi karni. I wanted to be an entrepreneur.
  31. He is sure he would not have been hired by Google with his skill set. if I had interviewed for Google for the same skill set that I had, I am 100% sure I would have never gotten in.
  32. He says he was completely absent from family life in the early startup years. I was completely missing in action.
  33. He worked 18 to 19 hour days in the early years. I was so busy 18-19 hours ke days ho rahe hain
  34. He says it would be better for his family if he focused on work and his wife stayed at home. it would be better for our family if I, the ambitious one, focuses on the work and she focuses being stay at home.
  35. He has enrolled his children in a Montessori school. Maine apne bachon ko Montessori mein daala hua hai.
  36. He says the self-learning he developed came from being left alone with computers and the internet. we were left in our rooms with our computers and the internet
  37. He says parents should give children good education and fundamentals, then let them figure things out. we'll obviously give them good education, give them fundamentals, but let them figure it out.
  38. Pop-ups from one of his companies reached a billion views in its first year. in the first year, our pop-ups reached a billion views.
  39. He says growth hacks are not sustainable. Growth hacks are not sustainable.
  40. The name Minder came from Muslim Tinder. Muslim Tinder, Minder. Let's keep it Minder.
  41. He says Minder went viral partly because of its name. But it turned out good kyunki woh naam ki wajah se viral ho gaya.
  42. He describes Mailmunch as an email marketing platform. an email marketing platform called Mailmunch.
  43. He describes Salams, formerly Minder, as one of the largest Muslim matchmaking apps in the world. it's one of the largest Muslim matchmaking apps, uh, in the world
  44. He says Salams has almost 5 million active users. we now have almost like 5 million active users
  45. He says Salams has between 250,000 and 400,000 reported marriages. close to 250,000 to 400,000 reported marriages.
  46. He says Muslims are very scattered, especially in the US. especially in the US, Muslims are very scattered.
  47. He says Salams is popular in Dubai but focused mostly on the Western world. it's popular in Dubai, but mostly we are focused on the Western world.
  48. He says the Salams team is based entirely in the US. Jaise Salam's ki team is not in Pakistan, it's all in the US.
  49. He says the Mailmunch team is based in Lahore. Mail Munch ki the whole team is in Lahore.
  50. He says each of his products has a different co-founder. All my products are with different co-founders.
  51. He and his co-founders built the first versions of Minder, Mailmunch and Unlayer themselves. Minder, Mail Munch, Unlayer, the first versions we have coded ourselves.
  52. He says he was a strong developer but weak in sales and marketing before he moved to the US. I was a great developer, but not a good person in sales, marketing, etc.
  53. He learned sales after moving to the US. Toh pehla jab main I moved to the US na, toh wahan pe mujhe sabse pehla exposure hua how to sell.
  54. He describes himself mainly as a product person. I consider myself as a product guy primarily
  55. Unlayer began in 2017. This was 2017. Uh aur hamara first goal bada hi clear tha Unlayer ke liye
  56. Unlayer was first built to meet Mailmunch's own need for a drag-and-drop content builder. At Mail Munch we needed something jo hum Mail Munch pe add kar sakein for a drag and drop builder to create content.
  57. He spoke with a technical friend, who had taught him coding, about building a drag-and-drop builder. I spoke to my other friend who's a technical guru jisne humein coding sikhayi
  58. The friend sent him a prototype the next day. Agle din mujhe message karta hai yeh dekho maine prototype banaya hai
  59. He describes Unlayer as a white-label drag-and-drop builder. Unlayer ne wohi builder banaya hua hai but white label.
  60. He says anyone can embed Unlayer's builder into their marketing automation software. Anybody can embed it into their marketing automation softwares
  61. He says Unlayer works in two-week sprints and updates the product in each one. Hamara sprints 2 weeks ke hote hain usme hum update karte hain
  62. He says Unlayer added AI features, such as suggestions for headings. ab agar aap ek heading daalo to we will give you better suggestions for that heading.
  63. He says Unlayer offers multi-year contracts to enterprises and monthly subscriptions to SMBs. with enterprises we also have multi-year contracts but for SMBs we have a monthly subscription as well
  64. He says Netflix is an Unlayer customer. hamare Netflix hamara customer hai
  65. He says Unlayer's clients include Fidelity and IBM. Aur is tarah se kaafi ache ache big big name clients hain, Fidelity, etc, IBM.
  66. He says all of his companies except Unlayer are bootstrapped. except Unlayer because we went to YC, rest of them are bootstrapped.
  67. He says Unlayer is currently valued at $60 million. Unlayer is currently valued at $60 million
  68. He says Unlayer raised a seed round and will announce it in a few months. we raised our seed round which we are going to be announcing in in a few months.
  69. He describes Unlayer as a content creation platform. It's a content creation platform which went to Y Combinator last year.
  70. He says Y Combinator is most useful for founders who are new to the game. I think it's really it's really useful if you are new to the game
  71. He says Unlayer used the Y Combinator network to reach enterprise clients. ke YC ke network se hi humein kafi saare enterprise clients aur deals
  72. He says Unlayer's enterprise clients came to them inbound. all enterprises we got they were all inbound. They came to us. We didn't go to them.
  73. He says enterprises could build the product in-house for about half a million dollars, or license it. Ya to half a million dollar laga ke ek apni team banayein aur yeh cheez khud build kar lein 6 mahine mein, saal mein, half a million dollars ya humse license kar lein.
  74. He says people underrate domain knowledge, which he thinks is 90% of what matters. Domain knowledge is people discount domain knowledge. I think that's 90% of your everything.
  75. He says a problem solved for yourself can be solved for other people too. if you can solve it for yourself, you can solve it for other people.
  76. He says they did no customer research at the beginning. humne koi customer research nahi ki at the beginning
  77. He says timing is the number one reason startups fail. Aur number one reason by far is timing.
  78. He says raising money is not always the right choice and can damage a company. It also can kill companies if you do it the wrong way.
  79. He is glad his companies did not take the funding route. sometimes it's not the right path and I I'm glad we didn't do we didn't go that route for all of these companies
  80. He says first-time founders focus on product, and second-time founders focus on distribution. first time founders focus on product, second time founders focus on distribution.
  81. He says building a good product and putting it in the App Store can carry a company to its first million in annual recurring revenue. Just build a good product, put it in the App Store, woh aapko first million ARR tak toh yeh le jayega growth hack.
  82. He says reaching a first million in revenue is not that hard, and he has done it four times on his own. But first million tak jaana toh itna mushkil nahi hai, main chaar dafa main kar chuka hoon akela.
  83. He is still very bullish on micro SaaS. I am still very bullish on micro SaaS or especially with the AI changing the landscape.
  84. He advises smart people in Pakistan to spend a few months in Dubai for exposure. you should relocate to Dubai not permanently if you don't want to but just go there for a few months at the very least.
  85. He says letting Pakistanis go abroad could make them partners and sales agents. Like let people go out, maybe they'll become your partners, they'll become your sales agents, they'll become your insight on what is required across the world.
  86. He says Pakistan's youth population only matters if the country gives it direction. Woh sir woh potential kuch nahi hoga agar us potential ko identify karenge, usko humne direction kidhar deni hai.
  87. He says graduates with strong skills should aim for startups that bring in dollars. They should aim for startups or stuff that brings in dollars because they they have the talent to create world-class products.
  88. He says a founder needs breadth across sales, marketing, customer success, product and QA. you need to know the breadth of things, breadth of sales, breadth of marketing, breadth of customer success, breadth of product, breadth of QA.
  89. He fundamentally believes in product companies. I fundamentally believe in product companies
  90. He says services companies sell a person's hours, like any labor job. you are basically selling hours, hours of a person to it's like any other labor job.
  91. He thinks services work will diminish. services overall is going to diminish.
  92. He thinks product work will increase considerably. products overall will increase quite quite a lot
  93. He says a developer who uses GitHub Copilot already outperforms one who does not. Ek developer jo copilot use karta hai GitHub, woh already out perform kar raha hai ek us developer ko jo nahi karta.
  94. He says he is optimistic about Pakistan overall. But I think I am overall still optimistic about Pakistan.
  95. He thinks Pakistan will survive, though perhaps not thrive quickly. Pakistan end pe shayad thrive itni jaldi na kare but survive zaroor kar jayega.
  96. Haroon was his mentor and had recently sold Truebill. I had a mentor Haroon who had recently sold Truebill for a billion dollars.
  97. Unlayer is now on the venture capital route, with Series A and B rounds next. Unlayer is now on the VC route to agla step hamara obviously series A, series B
  98. He says his focus for the next few years is growing his companies into bigger ones. my focus for the next few years is going to be growing these into even bigger companies.
  99. Minder was rebranded as Salams to get rid of the Tinder connotation. which is why we also rebranded to Salams kyunke we wanted to get rid of that connotation
  100. He says Salams' complete focus is marriage. our complete focus is on marriage
  101. He says Salams is subscription-based, like other matchmaking apps. Uh subscription based. All these matchmaking apps are subscription based.
  102. Adeel Raza is a co-founder of Minder, now known as Salams. Adeel Raza is Minder's Co-Founder, now known as Salams App.