Hamza Saeed
Director Planning, Special Technology Zone
Compiled from 1 recorded interview. Every statement below is drawn from the passage cited beside it.
Hamza Saeed is Director Planning at the Special Technology Zone for Pakistan. He says a career move focused on CPEC grew out of his interest in the stock market. He says he visited China five or six times over three or four years.
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Early life and background
Saeed studied at a cadet college. He says that all his life he had wanted to be an engineer, a mechanical engineer. [1]
Education
Saeed says his batch was the first to apply to LUMS. He says he ended up at LUMS by accident because his friends were applying. He graduated from LUMS, where he took double majors in Economics and Mathematics with a minor in Finance. [1]
He also took several courses in law and the constitution. He says much of his learning at LUMS came outside lectures. He says many of his LUMS batchmates went abroad. [1]
Career
Saeed joined the oil industry. He says he joined as a marketing and accounts executive. He opened a small stock market account. [1]
Saeed says he began researching CPEC and became absorbed by it. He says he joined as an associate and quickly climbed up the ladder. He says his economics and financial skills were used to polish and write a lot of assessments. He was part of a delegation of around 100 bureaucrats. [1]
Special Technology Zone
Saeed says that as a director he manages teams. He says the most real skill he has learned is how to manage difficult people. He says all the young people he has hired are 21 years old. [1]
He says the Special Technology Zones Authority makes plans for 15 to 20 years. He says a university is the core of a technology zone because that is where knowledge workers are trained. He says zone enterprises are the end customers, including startups, SMEs and large companies. He says the special technology zone focuses on the factors of production of the fourth industrial revolution. [1]
He says a zone licence gives ten years of zero tax and zero customs duty, and that a technology zone offers a ten-year tax holiday and a ten-year customs holiday. He says the 52% who are women are being targeted, and that the focus is now on millennials. He says special laws for venture capital are introduced. [1]
He says roads, power and water are being provided, and that the cost of doing business within these zones is being reduced for the zone developer. He says a one-window service is being brought in. He says a person could register a company, hire people, open a bank account and create an NTN. He says that for the first time people will be able to operate dollar accounts and send money freely. He says incentives were vulnerable because a tax authority could issue an SRO cancelling them. [1]
Approval and rollout
Saeed says unanimous approval was received and that he saluted every political party. He says it passed the National Assembly and was coming to the Senate. He says the rules were approved within three months, which he calls the fastest ever in the history of Pakistan. He says the rules give priority to the private sector. [1]
He says the Prime Minister approved a national roll-out plan. He says a special technology zone will be announced in every province, Azad Jammu Kashmir and Gilgit within six months. He says freelancers and local tech companies will have places to get incentives within six months. He says there is a pipeline of around 13 technology zones, and that around 10 of those have been pitched by the private sector. He says around 20 to 25 proposals have been received so far. [1]
He says 150 acres have been acquired in Islamabad. He said construction would probably start in 45 days, and that the project will include a tier 4 data center. He says that within two years one can expect a special technology zone with a building, and that the zone will be more of a mini city than a single building. He says the intent is to compete with parks in Singapore and Dubai. [1]
Views on China
Saeed says China has lifted 800 million people out of poverty, which he puts at 75% of global poverty reduction. He says the Chinese economy has remained undervalued. He says China will be the number one economy by 2030 in nominal GDP terms. He says the rise of China is inevitable and the only question is when. He says China is doing well on economic and technology strategy. [1]
He says that when China declares a new city, it moves conferences there. He says China invested heavily in training and vocational programmes as foreign technology arrived. He says Deng Xiaoping pushed to move decisions from Beijing down to town level. He says special economic zones were focused on large-scale manufacturing. He describes a special economic zone as an 800 acre area with its own laws and no tax. [1]
Views on Pakistan and technology
Saeed says Pakistan can change its alliances but cannot change its neighbours. He says a major failure in Pakistan was that no one could think beyond CPEC, roads and infrastructure. He says Pakistanis do well abroad but not at home. He says 65% of Pakistan's population is under 30. He says fake degrees are a problem in Pakistan. [1]
He says the Silicon Valley concept came out of Stanford in the 1960s. He says the triple helix model has become a quadruple helix that includes civil society. He says knowledge workers became a new factor of production. He says a blockchain ledger cannot be changed or defrauded. He says 5G will bring remote surgeries. [1]
He says Pakistan has a fairly large freelancer community in the IT industry. He says India began building science and technology parks in 2001. He says Pakistan missed out on about 3 billion dollars from the Careem acquisition. He says change comes from within. [1]
Appearances
| Date | Title | Where |
|---|---|---|
| 2021-08-06 | Why Pakistan drew a border around technology | Thought Behind Things |
Frequently asked questions
Who is Hamza Saeed?
Hamza Saeed is Director Planning at the Special Technology Zone for Pakistan. He graduated from LUMS. He says a career move focused on CPEC grew out of his interest in the stock market.[1]
What does Hamza Saeed do?
Hamza Saeed is Director Planning at the Special Technology Zone for Pakistan. He says that as a director he manages teams.[1]
Where did Hamza Saeed study?
Hamza Saeed graduated from LUMS, where he took double majors in Economics and Mathematics with a minor in Finance. He also studied at a cadet college.[1]
What is Hamza Saeed's career background?
Hamza Saeed joined the oil industry. He says his next career move focused on CPEC and grew out of his stock market interest. He says he visited China five or six times over three or four years.[1]
What has Hamza Saeed said about special technology zones?
Hamza Saeed says a technology zone offers a ten-year tax holiday and a ten-year customs holiday. He says a one-window service is being brought in. He says the Prime Minister approved a national roll-out plan.[1]
What does Hamza Saeed say about China?
Hamza Saeed says the rise of China is inevitable and the only question is when. He says China will be the number one economy by 2030 in nominal GDP terms. He also says China is doing well on economic and technology strategy.[1]
What is Hamza Saeed known for?
Hamza Saeed is Director Planning at the Special Technology Zone for Pakistan. He has spoken about special economic zones and the rise of China.[1]
References
- Why Pakistan drew a border around technology . Thought Behind Things , 2021-08-06.
Show the source passages (77 statements)
- Hamza Saeed is Director Planning at the Special Technology Zone for Pakistan.
He is the Director Planning at the Special Technology Zone for Pakistan.
- Hamza Saeed studied at a cadet college.
I studied in Cadet College Kohat.
- Hamza Saeed says his batch was the first to apply to LUMS.
We were actually the first batch to apply to LUMS.
- Hamza Saeed says he ended up at LUMS by accident because his friends were applying.
then I ended up in LUMS accidentally kyunke mere dost apply kar rahe the
- Hamza Saeed says he wanted to be a mechanical engineer all his life.
all my life I had wanted to be engineer, mechanical engineer
- Hamza Saeed graduated from LUMS.
main LUMS se graduate hua
- Hamza Saeed took double majors in Economics and Mathematics with a minor in Finance.
So I did double majors in Economics and Mathematics and minor in Finance
- Hamza Saeed took several courses in law and the constitution.
I took up several courses of law, constitution pe liya
- Hamza Saeed joined the oil industry.
I joined oil industry.
- Hamza Saeed says he joined as a marketing and accounts executive.
I joined as a marketing and accounts executive aur yahi 2013 mein
- Hamza Saeed opened a small stock market account.
maine ek stock market ka chota account khola
- Hamza Saeed says he began researching CPEC and became absorbed by it.
I started researching about CPEC and I got consumed by it
- Hamza Saeed says his next career move focused on CPEC and grew out of his stock market interest.
my next career switch was focused on CPEC. And it came from the stock market.
- Hamza Saeed says he joined as an associate and quickly climbed up the ladder.
So I joined as an associate and I quickly climbed up the ladder.
- Hamza Saeed says his economics and financial skills were used to polish and write a lot of assessments.
So that's where my economics and financial skills are to polish and write a lot of assessments
- Hamza Saeed says he visited China five or six times over three or four years.
Teen, chaar saal I got to visit China five, six times.
- Hamza Saeed was part of a delegation of around 100 bureaucrats.
So I was in a delegation of around 100 bureaucrats.
- Hamza Saeed says that when China declares a new city, it moves conferences there.
Woh yeh karte hain ke jab naya shehar declare karte hain log, toh jitne conferences hain, woh wahan move kar dete hain.
- Hamza Saeed says China has lifted 800 million people out of poverty, which he puts at 75% of global poverty reduction.
800 million, that is 75% of the total global poverty elevation has been done by the Chinese themselves
- Hamza Saeed says the Chinese economy has remained undervalued.
So Chinese economy has remained undervalued
- Hamza Saeed says China will be the number one economy by 2030 in nominal GDP terms.
2030 tak Chinese will become the number one economy in terms of real GDP, sorry nominal GDP.
- Hamza Saeed says the rise of China is inevitable and the only question is when.
Toh yeh the rise of China is inevitable. It's not the question of why, what, when, it's the question of when.
- Hamza Saeed says Pakistan can change its alliances but cannot change its neighbours.
Hum dekhein hum alliances change kar sakte hain, hum apne neighbors change nahi kar sakte.
- Hamza Saeed says a major failure in Pakistan was that no one could think beyond CPEC, roads and infrastructure.
Hamare yahan pe ek major failure jo hai woh yeh tha ke CPEC se aage koi roads aur infrastructure se aage koi nahi soch saka.
- Hamza Saeed says China is doing well on economic and technology strategy.
I think Chinese are doing really well on the economic strategy and technology strategy part.
- Hamza Saeed says the Special Technology Zones Authority makes plans for 15 to 20 years.
jahan pe Special Technology Zones Authority bhi aa jaati hai, wahan pe hum jab plans banate hain woh 15 se 20 saal ka banate hain
- Hamza Saeed says the Silicon Valley concept came out of Stanford in the 1960s.
1960s mein Stanford se Silicon Valley ka concept nikla
- Hamza Saeed says the triple helix model has become a quadruple helix that includes civil society.
Ab chautha aa gaya quadruple helix. Uske andar civil society.
- Hamza Saeed says China invested heavily in training and vocational programmes as foreign technology arrived.
they have what they have done is foreign tech jab aaye unhone trainings aur vocational training mein dada-dad invest kiya
- Hamza Saeed says Deng Xiaoping pushed to move decisions from Beijing down to town level.
Deng Xiaoping was the one who was visionary. Toh usne do cheezein ki. Ek toh ek jo communist party completely centralized thi, sab decision Beijing mein thi. Unhone ek toh kaha ki towns level pe karein.
- Hamza Saeed says special economic zones were focused on large-scale manufacturing.
Special economic zones jo hai woh large scale manufacturing pe thi.
- Hamza Saeed describes a special economic zone as an 800 acre area with its own laws and no tax.
Special economic zones yahi hain ki yeh ji 800 acre zameen hai, yahan laws, tax nahi hai.
- Hamza Saeed says knowledge workers became a new factor of production.
So factor of production mein ek naya variable aa gaya, knowledge worker.
- Hamza Saeed says a blockchain ledger cannot be changed or defrauded.
Woh jo distributed ledger ban jaata hai, woh change nahi ho sakta, fraud nahi ho sakta, fraud proof ho gaye hain.
- Hamza Saeed says fake degrees are a problem in Pakistan.
jo abhi hamare Pakistan mein fake degree ka problem hai
- Hamza Saeed says 5G will bring remote surgeries.
5G ki wajah se hoga yeh ki remote surgeries aana start ho jayengi.
- Hamza Saeed says Pakistan has a fairly large freelancer community in the IT industry.
we do have a have a fairly large freelancer in IT industry
- Hamza Saeed says the special technology zone focuses on the factors of production of the fourth industrial revolution.
So special technology focuses on the fourth industrial revolution factors of production.
- Hamza Saeed says they are targeting the 52% who are women.
we are targeting jo 52% women hain
- Hamza Saeed says they are now focusing on millennials.
ab hum millennials pe focus kar rahe hain
- Hamza Saeed says all the young people he has hired are 21 years old.
in my entire jo maine jitne bache hire kiye hain, they are all 21 years old
- Hamza Saeed says a university is the core of a technology zone because that is where knowledge workers are trained.
Achha university is the core component because that's where the knowledge worker is trained.
- Hamza Saeed says India began building science and technology parks in 2001.
2001 mein India ne science and technology parks banana start kiye.
- Hamza Saeed says many of his LUMS batchmates went abroad.
mere bade saare batchmate bahar chale gaye
- Hamza Saeed says they have acquired 150 acres in Islamabad.
Islamabad mein humne abhi 150 acre acquire kiye hain.
- Hamza Saeed says zone enterprises are the end customers, including startups, SMEs and large companies.
Zone enterprise end customer hai, woh startup hai, woh SMEs hai, woh badi companies hain
- Hamza Saeed says a zone licence gives ten years of zero tax and zero customs duty.
License hum jab unhein zone enterprise ko dete hain ya startup ko dete hain, us pe 10 saal sifar tax hai. Zero customs duty.
- Hamza Saeed says they are providing roads, power and water.
Hum yeh kar rahe hain ki usko road, power, paani, yeh saara unko provide kar rahe hain
- Hamza Saeed says they are reducing the cost of doing business within these zones for the zone developer.
so hum cost of doing business within these zones, zone developer ko hata rahe hain
- Hamza Saeed says they have received around 20 to 25 proposals so far.
we have received around Muzamil quite some proposals, 20-25 proposals so far
- Hamza Saeed says they introduce special laws for venture capital.
So, we introduce special laws for venture capitals.
- Hamza Saeed says they are bringing in a one-window service.
hum one window laa rahe hain
- Hamza Saeed says a person could register a company, hire people, open a bank account and create an NTN.
he can register a company, he can hire people, open a bank account, create an NTN
- Hamza Saeed says incentives were vulnerable because a tax authority could issue an SRO cancelling them.
woh yeh tha vulnerability of incentives. So, normally koi bhi tax authority jo hai, woh aa ke SRO issue kar de ki ji cancel ho gaya
- Hamza Saeed says they got unanimous approval and saluted every political party.
We got unanimous approval and I want to salute to every political party on this.
- Hamza Saeed says it passed the National Assembly and was coming to the Senate.
And National Assembly se pass ho gaya, ab jo hai woh Senate mein aa raha hai InshaAllah.
- Hamza Saeed says a technology zone offers a ten-year tax holiday and a ten-year customs holiday.
woh yeh hai ki 10 saal tax holiday hoga, 10 saal customs holiday honge
- Hamza Saeed says that for the first time, people will be able to operate dollar accounts and send money freely.
for the first time, you will be able to operate dollar accounts and send it freely
- Hamza Saeed says Pakistan missed out on about 3 billion dollars from the Careem acquisition.
So, Careem ka jo hai 3.2 billion dollar ki acquisition hui hai. Imagine yeh Pakistan mein hota. Pakistan mein hota, bilkul. Theek hai, we missed on 3 billion dollars.
- Hamza Saeed says they intend to compete with parks in Singapore and Dubai.
Singapore aur Dubai mein agar park ho rahe hain, we are now going to compete.
- Hamza Saeed said construction would probably start in 45 days.
InshaAllah, uh, construction will start probably in 45 days.
- Hamza Saeed says the project will include a tier 4 data center.
tier 4 data center which Pakistan has never seen
- Hamza Saeed says that within two years one can expect a special technology zone with a building.
do saal mein hum yeh expect kar sakte hain ki ek special technology zone hai, jahan par ek building hai
- Hamza Saeed says the zone will be more of a mini city than a single building.
Ek building nahi, it's gonna be more of a mini city.
- Hamza Saeed says they have a pipeline of around 13 technology zones.
we have around 13 uh technology zones ki pipeline
- Hamza Saeed says around 10 of those zones have been pitched by the private sector.
around 10 have been pitched by the private sector as well.
- Hamza Saeed says the rules were approved within three months, which he calls the fastest ever in the history of Pakistan.
woh rules bhi Alhamdulillah jo hai woh approve ho gaye hain. Fastest ever in history of Pakistan we have been able to approve within 3 months.
- Hamza Saeed says the rules give priority to the private sector.
usmein private sector ko prioritize kiya gaya hai
- Hamza Saeed says the Prime Minister approved a national roll-out plan.
humne ek national roll-out plan jo hai woh uh Prime Minister sahab ne last Thursday ko approve kar liya hai
- Hamza Saeed says a special technology zone will be announced in every province, Azad Jammu Kashmir and Gilgit within six months.
in every province plus Azad Jammu Kashmir plus Gilgit, in next 6 months you will see an announcement of special technology zone
- Hamza Saeed says freelancers and local tech companies will have places to get incentives within six months.
in next 6 months by end of it, freelancers, local technology companies will have some places, some place to sit and get the incentives
- Hamza Saeed says Pakistanis do well abroad but not at home.
I mean the best doctors, best engineers, hum bahar jaate hain, we do wonders. Pakistan ke andar hum nahi karte.
- Hamza Saeed says 65% of Pakistan's population is under 30.
Because 65% of our population is under 30.
- Hamza Saeed says change comes from within.
For me, Muzamil, the the change comes from within.
- Hamza Saeed says the most real skill he has learned is how to manage difficult people.
The best learning that I have had is how or the most real skills is how to manage difficult people.
- Hamza Saeed says that as a director he manages teams.
main director hoon toh mujhe manage karne hote hain teams
- Hamza Saeed says much of his learning at LUMS came outside lectures.
meri jo kamaal learning hui hai LUMS mein, woh lectures mein nahi hui