Qanit Khalilullah
chartered accountant and author
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Qanit Khalilullah is a Pakistani chartered accountant and the author of Breaking the Trap: Debt, Inflation, Interest and Poverty, a book that argues for replacing fractional reserve banking with full reserve money. He has more than 25 years of experience in finance and operations, including work with A. F. Ferguson (PwC), Unilever Pakistan and Ufone. Khalilullah argues that full reserve banking, under which the state controls money creation, could eliminate domestic debt and end inflation.
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Education
Khalilullah qualified as a chartered accountant with Ferguson in Karachi. He holds Chartered and Management Accountancy qualifications from institutes in the United Kingdom and Pakistan. [1][3]
Career
Khalilullah describes himself as a chartered accountant by profession. He spent two years in tax consulting. He joined Unilever Pakistan and spent almost 10 years there, including as head of audit, internal audit. In 2008 he moved to Islamabad. He says he was EVP finance at Ufone. [3]
He has served on the boards of profit and non-profit organisations. His expertise covers financial planning, strategy, reporting, tax planning, assurance, compliance and supply chain management. [3]
Breaking the Trap
Khalilullah says he first wrote about the subject in a three-part article in 2024, and a detailed article by him has been published in three parts. He left his consulting work for five to six months to focus on the book. He says the book came out around March. He says the book was not written for financial specialists. [1][2][3]
The book was reviewed by 20 economists and bankers, including the deputy chairman of Faysal Bank and Arif Habib. Khalilullah says the deputy chairman of Faysal Bank wrote its foreword. [1]
Khalilullah says seminars were held at about 30 to 40 universities, and that copies of the book were also sent to the State Bank. He says he has presented the proposal at three institutions and has recorded around 15 more videos on this topic. He says he has done substantial work on the subject and currently gives lectures at universities. [1][2][3]
He says he plans to focus more on advocacy now that the book is out. He says he may take the money creation question to court. [1]
Views on money creation
Khalilullah says banks create money under today's system, fractional reserve banking. He says central banks create only base money, and commercial banks create the rest. He explains that with a 5 percent reserve, a bank can create about 20 times its deposit as new money, and says a bank's loan of one crore rupees after taking security is new money. He says private banks create about 90 percent of new money. [2][3]
He says about 90 percent of money is created with debt, and that about 97 percent of money today exists as bank numbers rather than cash. He says that in 2026 over 95% of the value of transactions worldwide is recorded as bank numbers, and that over 90% of transactions run through bank money. He says sovereign currency is issued by the central government as hard money. [1][2][3]
Khalilullah describes private money creation as the root of the problem. He says new money reaches the financial sector and wealthy people first, not ordinary people. He argues that money is a public good that should not be handed to the private sector. He says the state has historically been the one to create money, and that through most of history money was issued by the state. [1][2]
He says the State Bank's policy rate is the source of interest rates across the economy. He says interest rates are raised in order to stop money supply growth. He says Pakistani textile companies made large investments when rates were low in 2021-22. He says reserve ratios have hardly been used for 40 to 50 years. [2][3]
The full reserve proposal
Khalilullah says the solution is to move from fractional reserve to full reserve banking. He says commercial banks should stop creating money privately and the state should take back the power to create money. He says full reserve would require banks to hold 100% reserves instead of the 5% they now keep at the central bank, and that banks could not create money beyond their State Bank balances. [1][2][3]
He proposes that new money be created without debt, and says the money created under his proposal would not be created with debt. He says that under his proposal money would be created in line with GDP growth, for example 4% new money when growth is 4%. He says his proposal would limit money growth to long-term GDP growth of about 4 to 5 percent. He proposes a committee in which both the government and the opposition sit, working with public announcements. [2][3]
Khalilullah says the proposal would eliminate government debt, and that government debt would be cleared within one or two years. He says the government's domestic debt would be eliminated under the full reserve plan, and argues the proposal would eliminate Pakistan's domestic debt. He says the proposal aims to eliminate Pakistan's debt. He says private debt would remain after the transition, and that existing contracts would be honoured during the transition. [2][3]
He says full reserve banking could be put in place within a week or two. He says he is strongly convinced the proposal can be implemented smoothly, and that he has not yet seen any technical problem with it. He cites Milton Friedman as saying full reserve banking could be implemented overnight, and says it is backed by economists Irving Fisher and Milton Friedman. He says Irving Fisher also argued for eliminating debt. [1][2][3]
Khalilullah says full reserve banking would structurally end bank runs, and that under full reserve the State Bank would control money directly, not through interest rates. He says banks do two jobs, storing and transacting money and investing or lending it, and that there is friction between them. He says money in bank investment accounts would carry risk. He calls central bank digital money a good concept, but says it would end innovation in banking. [2]
Views on debt and inflation
Khalilullah argues that Pakistan's debt-based banking system is a bigger trap than cryptocurrency. He argues the debt-based system is a Ponzi scheme, much bigger than anything in cryptocurrency. He says Pakistan's domestic debt rose from 5 trillion to 55 trillion rupees in 15 years. He says Pakistan's interest cost is about 6 to 7 trillion rupees, and that about 90% of it is on domestic debt. [1][2][3]
He says about 60% of tax revenue goes to interest payments, and that the interest paid on this debt ends up with banks. He says the government takes loans of 400 to 500 billion rupees from banks. He cites a Dawn report saying 98% of banks' extra lending went to the government to repay interest, and says about 98 percent of the loans the banking sector gave in the preceding year went to the government. He says that by 2032, 93% of the entire federal budget will be consumed by debt payments and interest. [1][3]
He says the debt will have to be repaid by future generations. He says interest is the biggest expense and could be ended immediately. He says Pakistan's economic conditions come from policy choices, not fixed circumstances, and that people should discuss this topic because a solution exists. [2][3]
Khalilullah says Pakistan's total currency supply rose from 29.28 trillion in June 2023 to 46.86 trillion in June 2026. He says money supply has grown about 15% a year over 50 years, roughly 1200 times in total, while actual output has grown only about nine to ten times. He says there is no logic in creating 20% money growth when long-term growth is 4%. He says one cause of inflation is that money supply is increased by 20 percent while production of goods and services grows 2.5 to 3 percent. He calls inflation a tax imposed without representation. [1][2][3]
He says everything has become about 100 times more expensive, and that salaries lose purchasing power every year. He says savers and retirees on fixed incomes lose out when inflation cuts their purchasing power, while asset owners gain when inflation rises because asset prices go up. He says savings accounts currently pay about 7 to 8%, that if savers get 7% they still lose 10 to 12%, and that money's value is falling about 15% a year today. [2]
He says UK money supply grew about 7 to 10% a year from 1970, that US money creation grew about 50 times over the past 50 years, and that US household debt was close to zero in the 1950s. He says the line between savings and current accounts has blurred over the past 50 years, and that checking accounts count as money under the M1 and M2 definitions. He says Pakistan's banks hold about 30 trillion rupees in deposits. [2][3]
Views on Islamic finance
Khalilullah says he read about full reserve banking and found it very close to Islam's true objectives. He says full reserve banking is close to Islamic ideals because it creates money without debt. He argues fractional reserve banking is a modern form of riba, and describes abolishing riba as Islam's monetary policy. [2][3]
He says Islamic banks also create new money, so they face the same problem, and that they also hold money creation power. He says Islamic banks must link their contract profit rates to the State Bank policy rate, and that Islamic banking contracts are linked to the State Bank's discount rate. He says one interest rate sets rates across the economy, and Islamic bank contracts depend on it. He says that under fractional reserve, Islamic banks cannot do profit and loss sharing if they want to, and that Islamic banks' murabaha contracts are debt-based in practice. [1][2][3]
He says Islamic finance does the same work inside an attractive wrapper. He favours profit-and-loss sharing. He says market economy brings innovation and benefits, which Islam supports, and that Islam's remedies are the zakat system and the real end of riba. [1][3]
Views on zakat and taxation
Khalilullah says zakat is Islam's fiscal policy, setting what to collect and what to spend. He says the purpose of zakat is to end poverty, and that modern economics shows zakat helps grow the whole economy. He says the second meaning of zakat is growth, and that focus should be on distributing zakat more than collecting it. He says the aim is that wealth should not keep circulating only among the rich. [3]
He has discussed how the taxation system could be replaced with zakat-based taxation. He says sales tax is widely regarded as highly regressive, and that more than 50, indeed more than 60 percent of collections come through sales tax. He calls it an inefficient system when an 18% tax brings the government 5.5%. He says 70 to 80 percent of Pakistan's income tax comes from large companies, and suggests a single flat tax system to fund government spending. [2][3]
He proposes an ushr system, a zakat on production, applied to all goods, and says ushr is 10 percent on rain-fed land and 5 percent where the farmer irrigates. He says zakat is charged on current market value, not the purchase price. He says determining income exactly is hard, while determining wealth is easy. He says he worked out the calculation for a 2.5 percent zakat together with several economists, and estimates a 2.5 percent wealth zakat would be about 7.5 to 10 percent of GDP. [3]
Khalilullah says about 100 million Pakistanis live below the poverty line, and that the poor have a binding right over the wealth of the rich. He says each of about 12 million poor families could be given 20,000 to 25,000 rupees, and that both zakat types together would give poor families about 60,000 to 70,000 rupees a month. He says that 300 to 400 billion spent on a programme, divided per poor person, might not reach 400 rupees a month. He says Imam Shafi'i held that the government's expense should not exceed 12.5% of total zakat. [2][3]
Views on cryptocurrency and gold
Khalilullah says cryptocurrency is not a currency. He estimates less than half a percent of Pakistan's transactions use bitcoin, and says bitcoin's price closely tracks total global dollar liquidity. He says that when he needs to make a transaction, he will convert bitcoin into a stablecoin. He says he is not saying Mufti Taqi Usmani is wrong, but that he can disagree with him fundamentally or philosophically. [1]
He thinks gold has not been used as a currency since the 15th or 16th century, and says gold can be an investment but cannot serve as a currency. He says he sees gambling happening in every home and on every mobile phone through cryptocurrencies and the stock market. [1][3]
Views on social policy
Khalilullah suggests giving vouchers so that people can study at the school of their choice. He says some schools in Sindh and elsewhere are ghost schools, and that education is a devolved subject. He says families given cash for basic needs do better on education and health. [3]
He says the basic wage is set at about 35,000 rupees, and that thousands work below the basic wage and are exploited. He proposes a job guarantee under which people who cannot find a job are given work. He says labour unions have largely disappeared. [3]
He cites an account from Madinah in which a request to fix prices was refused. He says capital markets drove much of 20th-century growth. [3]
Timeline
Appearances
| Date | Title | Where |
|---|---|---|
| 2026-07-31 | By 2032, 93% of Pakistan's budget will vanish into debt | Thought Behind Things |
| 2026-04-15 | Fractional reserve banking is a modern form of riba | Thought Behind Things |
| 2024-12-24 | Islamic banking in Pakistan is mostly a rebrand | Thought Behind Things |
Frequently asked questions
Who is Qanit Khalilullah?
Qanit Khalilullah is a Pakistani chartered accountant and the author of Breaking the Trap: Debt, Inflation, Interest and Poverty. He has more than 25 years of experience in finance and operations.[1][2][3]
What does Qanit Khalilullah do?
Qanit Khalilullah is a chartered accountant with experience in finance and operations. He is the author of Breaking the Trap. He says he currently gives lectures at universities and plans to focus more on advocacy.[1][2][3]
Where did Qanit Khalilullah study?
Qanit Khalilullah qualified as a chartered accountant with Ferguson in Karachi. He holds Chartered and Management Accountancy qualifications from institutes in the United Kingdom and Pakistan.[1][3]
Where is Qanit Khalilullah from?
Qanit Khalilullah describes himself as Pakistani and says he loves Pakistan. He qualified as a chartered accountant with Ferguson in Karachi. In 2008 he moved to Islamabad.[1][3]
What book did Qanit Khalilullah write?
Qanit Khalilullah wrote Breaking the Trap: Debt, Inflation, Interest and Poverty. The book argues for replacing fractional reserve banking with full reserve money. It was reviewed by 20 economists and bankers, including the deputy chairman of Faysal Bank and Arif Habib.[1][2]
What is Qanit Khalilullah's view on full reserve banking?
Qanit Khalilullah argues that full reserve banking, under which the state controls money creation, could eliminate domestic debt and end inflation. He says it would require banks to hold 100% reserves instead of the 5% they now keep at the central bank. He also says it is close to Islamic ideals because it creates money without debt.[1][2][3]
Where has Qanit Khalilullah worked?
Qanit Khalilullah has worked with A. F. Ferguson (PwC), Unilever Pakistan and Ufone. He spent almost 10 years at Unilever Pakistan, including as head of audit, internal audit. He says he was EVP finance at Ufone.[3]
References
- By 2032, 93% of Pakistan's budget will vanish into debt . Thought Behind Things , 2026-07-31.
- Fractional reserve banking is a modern form of riba . Thought Behind Things , 2026-04-15.
- Islamic banking in Pakistan is mostly a rebrand . Thought Behind Things , 2024-12-24.
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- He completed his CA at Ferguson in Karachi.
1998 में कराची फ्गसन से मैंने सीए किया था
- He left his consulting work for five to six months to focus on the book.
उसके बाद जॉब यानी कंसल्टिंग अपनी छोड़ के पांच छ महीने बुक पे लगाई है
- He says the book came out around March.
यह बुक आई है तकरीबन मार्च में इस साल
- He is the author of Breaking the Trap of Debt, Inflation, Interest and Poverty.
His book, Breaking the Trap of Debt, Inflation, Interest, and Poverty
- The book was reviewed by 20 economists and bankers, including the deputy chairman of Faysal Bank and Arif Habib.
has been reviewed by 20 economists and bankers, including the deputy chairman of Faysal Bank and Arif Habib
- He says he first wrote about the subject in an article in three parts in 2024.
2024 की बात है कि मैंने पहली दफा इस पे ना न्यूज़ में आर्टिकल लिखा था तीन हिस्सों में
- He says seminars were held at about 30 to 40 universities.
कोई 30 40 यूनिवर्सियों में लोगों ने हमने सेमिनार्स भी किए
- He says copies of the book were also sent to the State Bank.
अलबत्ता किताबें हमने भिजवाई है। स्टेट बैंक के अंदर भी
- He says the deputy chairman of Faysal Bank wrote the book's foreword.
फैसल बैंक के डिप्टी चेयरमैन ने इसका फॉरवर्ड लिखा हुआ है
- He says he has recorded around 15 more videos on this topic.
उसके ऊपर मेरी 15 और वीडियोस हैं जिसके ऊपर मैंने बैठ के ये चीज लोगों को समझाई है
- He says he plans to focus more on advocacy now that the book is out.
उसके बाद अब हम सोच रहे हैं कि जो आपने कहा ना एडवोकेसी का काम जो है वो हम ज्यादा करना शुरू करेंगे
- He says he may take the money creation question to court.
शायद हम थोड़े दिनों में कोर्ट में भी बात करें कि भाई ये जो मनी क्रिएशन की पावर है
- He describes himself as Pakistani and says he loves Pakistan.
मैं पाकिस्तानी हूं और मैं पाकिस्तान से बहुत प्यार करता हूं
- He says that when he needs to make a transaction, he will convert bitcoin into a stablecoin.
मुझे जब कोई ट्रांजैक्शन करनी है, मैं बिटकॉइन को कन्वर्ट करूंगा इंटू अ स्टेबल कॉइन
- He says he is not saying Mufti Taqi Usmani is wrong, but that he can disagree with him fundamentally or philosophically.
मैं नहीं कह रहा कि मुफ्ती तक उस्मानी साहब गलत हैं। मैं फंडामेंटली या फिलोसोफिकली उनसे डिसएग्री कर सकता हूं
- He says cryptocurrency is not a currency.
क्रिप्टो करेंसी जो है वह करेंसी करेंसी नहीं है
- He argues the debt-based system is a Ponzi scheme, much bigger than anything in cryptocurrency.
डेप्ट बेस सिस्टम है वो एक पोंजी स्कीम है मच बिगर पोंजी देन एनीथिंग दैट क्रिप्टो
- He argues Pakistan's debt-based banking system is a bigger trap than cryptocurrency.
Qanit Khalilullah explains why Pakistan's debt-based banking system is a bigger trap than cryptocurrency
- He argues full reserve banking, where the state controls money creation, could eliminate domestic debt and end inflation.
Kanit argues that full reserve banking, where the state controls money creation, could eliminate domestic debt, end inflation
- He estimates less than half a percent of Pakistan's transactions use bitcoin.
पाकिस्तान में जो ट्रांजैक्शन बिटकॉइन से हो रही होंगी वो शायद हाफ परसेंट भी नहीं हो रही होंगी
- He says over 90% of transactions run through bank money.
90% से ज्यादा जो ट्रांजैक्शंस हो रही हैं बैंक मनी के थ्रू
- He says bitcoin's price closely tracks total global dollar liquidity.
बिटकॉइन की प्राइस को प्लॉट करें अगेंस्ट दी टोटल ग्लोबल डॉलर लिक्विडिटी तो इट इज़ ऑलमोस्ट दी एग्जैक्ट सेम
- He thinks gold has not been used as a currency since the 15th or 16th century.
गोल्ड एज अ करेंसी तो मेरे ख्याल है 15वीं 16वीं सदी के बाद यूज़ नहीं हुआ
- He says gold can be an investment but cannot serve as a currency.
गोल्ड भी इन्वेस्टमेंट वाली चीज हो सकती है। करेंसी के तौर पे यूज़ नहीं हो सकता
- He says Pakistan's domestic debt rose from 5 trillion to 55 trillion rupees in 15 years.
हमारा जो डोमेस्टिक डेप्ट है वो पिछले 15 सालों में 5 ट्रिलियन से 55 ट्रिलियन पे चला गया है
- He says about 60% of tax revenue goes to interest payments.
इस वक्त तकरीबन 60% जो आपका टैक्स है जो आप बेचारे ज्यादातर तो गरीबों से ही ले रहे हैं। सेल्स टैक्स में वो आप इंटरेस्ट में दे रहे हैं
- He says the interest paid on this debt ends up with banks.
वो इंटरेस्ट कहां जा रहा है? वो बैंकों के हाथों में जा रहा है
- He says Pakistan's total currency supply rose from 29.28 trillion in June 2023 to 46.86 trillion in June 2026.
2023 के अंदर जून में गालिबन पाकिस्तान की जो टोटल करेंसी इन सप्लाई थी वो 29.28 ट्रिलियन थी। जून 2026 में यह नंबर जो है वो 46.86 पे खड़ा हुआ है
- He says money supply has grown about 15% a year over 50 years, roughly 1200 times in total.
पिछले 50 सालों में पाकिस्तान में हर साल जो मनी सप्लाई बढ़ी है वो 15% के हिसाब से बढ़ी है। जो तकरीबन 1200 गुना बन जाती है
- He says actual output has grown only about nine to ten times.
एक्चुअल जो प्रोडक्शन बढ़ी है वो सिर्फ 9 10 गुना बढ़ी है
- He says there is no logic in creating 20% money growth when long-term growth is 4%.
अगर पाकिस्तान में लॉन्ग टर्म ग्रोथ 4% है तो कोई लॉजिक नहीं है कि आप 20% मनी क्रिएट करें
- He says the state should take back the power to create money.
इसका हल ये है कि वो आप जो जो मनी जो पब्लिक गुड है उसको आप रियासत के पास वापस लें
- He says commercial banks should stop creating money privately.
पहली बात तो यह है कि प्राइवेट क्रिएशन ऑफ़ मनी जो कमर्शियल बैंक्स की है वो खत्म कर दें
- He says money is a public good that should not be handed to the private sector.
तो उसी तरीके से मनी जो है वो एक पब्लिक गुड है जिसके अंदर जिसको आप प्राइवेट सेक्टर के हवाले नहीं कर सकते
- He says the solution is to move from fractional reserve to full reserve banking.
कि फ्रैक्शनल रिजर्व से आप फुल रिजर्व बैंकिंग पे जाए
- He says full reserve banking could be put in place within a week or two.
और आप इसको हफ्ते दो हफ्ते में आप इसको इंप्लीमेंट कर सकते हैं
- He says new money reaches the financial sector and wealthy people first, not ordinary people.
पैसा आम लोगों को बेनिफिट नहीं करता। यह पैसा जो है सबसे पहले फाइनेंसियल सेक्टर के पास आता है और फिर बड़े अमीर लोगों के पास जाता है
- He says the state has historically been the one to create money.
तारीख में हमेशा रियासत ही मनी क्रिएट करती रही है
- He says Islamic banks also create new money, so they face the same problem.
ये जो आज इस्तकर इस्लामिक बैंकिंग कर रहे हैं वो जाहिर है कि उनमें भी वही मसाइल है कि फ्रेश से मनी क्रिएट करते हैं
- He says Islamic finance does the same work inside an attractive wrapper.
घुमा करके सेम काम जो है वो कितने खूबसूरत रैपर के साथ कर रहे हैं
- He says market economy brings innovation and benefits, which Islam supports.
मेरा ख्याल है मार्केट इकॉनमी से इनोवेशन भी होती है। फायदे भी हैं। इस्लाम उसको सपोर्ट करता है
- He says Islam's remedies are the zakat system and the real end of riba.
उसका इस्लाम में एक जगह तो हल जकात का निजाम है। और एक ये कि रिबा का सही मायन में खात्मा
- He says that by 2032, 93% of the entire federal budget will be consumed by debt payments and interest.
2032 93% ऑफ योर एंटायर फेडरल बजट विल बी कंज्यूम्ड बाय डे और और डे पेमेंट्स और इंटरेस्ट एसेंशियली
- He cites a Dawn report saying 98% of banks' extra lending went to the government to repay interest.
एक डॉन में रिपोर्ट आई थी कि 98% जो बैंकों ने एडिशनल लोन दिया है। वो सिर्फ गवर्नमेंट को दिया है इंटरेस्ट वापस करने के लिए
- Qanit Khalilullah is the author of Breaking the Trap.
Kaanit Khalilullah, author of Breaking the Trap
- Qanit Khalilullah is a Chartered Accountant.
main as a Chartered Accountant maine Ferguson aur Unilever wagera ke andar kaam kiya hai
- Qanit Khalilullah has worked at Ferguson and Unilever, among other employers.
main as a Chartered Accountant maine Ferguson aur Unilever wagera ke andar kaam kiya hai
- The book is titled Breaking the Trap: Debt, Inflation, Interest and Poverty, and argues for replacing fractional reserve banking with full reserve money.
Book ka naam hai 'Breaking the Trap: Debt, Inflation, Interest and Poverty - Replacing Fractional Reserve Banking with Full Reserve Money'
- He says he has presented the proposal at three institutions.
ICAP ke andar bhi humne present kiya hai, ICMA ke andar bhi, PIDE ke andar bhi
- He says the book was not written for financial specialists.
yeh kisi financial logon ke liye nahi likhi gayi hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says about 20 economists and scholars reviewed the book.
taqreeban 20 bade economists se, economists, scholars jo bade bade naam maujood hain, aap book mein jaake dekhiyega, unse humne isko review bhi karaya hai
- Qanit Khalilullah argues the proposal would eliminate Pakistan's domestic debt.
hum Pakistan ka domestic debt jahan 50% aapke tax ja raha hai, woh khatam ho jata hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says Pakistan's interest cost is about 6 to 7 trillion rupees.
jo humari interest ki cost hai jo taqreeban 6,000 billion ya 6 trillion hogi, balki 7 trillion hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says about 90% of Pakistan's interest cost is on domestic debt.
uska 90% jo portion hai, woh domestic debt ke upar hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says Pakistan's economic conditions come from policy choices, not fixed circumstances.
Yeh nahi hai ke yeh haalaat aise hain ke jo aise hi rahenge. Yeh policy choices hain humari.
- Qanit Khalilullah says people should discuss this topic because a solution exists.
Pichle chaar paanch saalon se mera yeh khayal tha ke is is mauzu ke upar logon ko baat karni chahiye kyunki solution maujood hai
- He has discussed how the taxation system could be replaced with zakat-based taxation.
jo humara fiscal side hai, yani taxation system, woh hum zakat-based taxation se kaise replace kar sakte hain
- Qanit Khalilullah says salaries lose purchasing power every year.
aapki salary ki jo purchasing power hai, woh har saal gir jaati hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says about 100 million Pakistanis live below the poverty line.
Pakistan mein 10 crore log jisko hum kehte hain satah-e-ghurbat se neeche hain
- Qanit Khalilullah says Pakistan's money creation averaged about 15% a year over the past 50 years.
pichle 50 saalon mein jo average money creation badhi hai woh 15% per annum se badhi hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says Pakistan's total money has grown about 1,200 times over 50 years.
total money 50 saalon mein 1200 guna badh chuki hai
- He says everything has become about 100 times more expensive.
har cheez 100 guna mehangi ho gayi hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says savers and retirees on fixed incomes lose out when inflation cuts their purchasing power.
savers hain ya retirees hain unko nuksaan ho raha hota hai kyunke unki purchasing power aapne gira di
- Qanit Khalilullah says asset owners gain when inflation rises, because asset prices go up.
Unke assets ki qeematein badhti hain
- Qanit Khalilullah says UK money supply grew about 7 to 10% a year from 1970.
UK mein 1970 se 20 tak taqreeban har saal 7-8-10% unki money badhi hai
- He says that in 2026 over 95% of the value of transactions worldwide is recorded as bank numbers.
Aaj 2026 ke andar taqreeban duniya mein 95% se upar transaction in value jo ho rahi hain, woh bankon ke numberon mein ho rahi hain
- Qanit Khalilullah says that through most of history, money was issued by the state.
zyada-tar currencies jo hain ya jo paisa hai, woh state ki currency hoti thi
- He says banks create money under today's system, fractional reserve banking.
Bank money create karte hain jo aaj ka nizam hai fractional reserve banking system
- Qanit Khalilullah says a 5% reserve ratio lets the money supply grow about 20 times.
with 5% reserve ratio kya kehte hain jo total money ki supply woh taqreeban 20 times badh jati hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says central banks create only base money, and commercial banks create the rest.
Sirf base money hum create karte hain, baqiya commercial bank create karte hain
- Qanit Khalilullah describes private money creation as the root of the problem.
private creation of money jo hai na jo fasaad ki jad hai
- He says that under his proposal money would be created in line with GDP growth, for example 4% new money when growth is 4%.
Hamare proposal mein agar aapki 4% GDP hai growth ho rahi hai to aap 4% money create karenge
- He says the money created under his proposal would not be created with debt.
kyunke ye money debt ke saath nahi create ho rahi hogi
- Qanit Khalilullah argues that money is a public good.
Usi tareeqe se public ye jo money hai na woh public good hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says the proposal would eliminate government debt.
government debt khatam ho raha hai poora
- Qanit Khalilullah says private debt would remain after the transition.
Private debt barqarar rahega
- He says existing contracts would be honoured during the transition.
jab abhi jo existing contracts hain woh honor honge
- Qanit Khalilullah says government debt would be cleared within one or two years.
ek do saalon ke andar jaake, government debt toh khatam ho jayega
- Qanit Khalilullah says Pakistan's banks hold about 30 trillion rupees in deposits.
Banking is waqt hamare jo hai na 30 trillion ke deposits hain
- Qanit Khalilullah says money in bank investment accounts would carry risk.
Isi tareeqe se bankon ka jo investment account hoga, investment account mein jo bhi paisa layein ge, woh risk ke sath layein ge
- Qanit Khalilullah says savings accounts currently pay about 7 to 8%.
savings account mein mera khayal hai 7-8% hoga is waqt
- Qanit Khalilullah says checking accounts count as money under the M1 and M2 definitions.
money ki definition mein checking account aate hain, jise M2 money kehte hain, M1 money
- Qanit Khalilullah says the line between savings and current accounts has blurred over the past 50 years.
pichle 50 saalon se yeh hua hai ke yeh blurring jo hai na jo jo saving account aur current account mein khatam ho gayi
- He says that if savers get 7%, they still lose 10 to 12%.
agar un ko 7% mil raha hai, 10-12% ka nuksaan ho raha hai un ko
- Qanit Khalilullah says money's value is falling about 15% a year today.
money ki value nahi giregi jo aaj 15% se gir rahi hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says Islamic banks must link their contract profit rates to the State Bank policy rate.
unko apne contract ke profit rate ko State Bank ke policy rate ke sath link karna parta hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says Islamic banks also hold money creation power.
Wo isliye hota hai ke unko bhi money creation ki power mili hui hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says that under fractional reserve, Islamic banks cannot do profit and loss sharing if they want to.
Islamic bank fraction reserve ke through agar aap chahein toh profit loss kar hi nahi sakte
- Qanit Khalilullah argues fractional reserve banking is a modern form of riba.
fractional reserve banking is a yeh actually modern manifestation of riba
- Qanit Khalilullah says full reserve banking would structurally end bank runs.
Full reserve ke andar bank run structurally khatam ho jayenge
- He says full reserve would require banks to hold 100% reserves instead of the 5% they now keep at the central bank.
bank jo abhi 5% central bank mein rakhte hain paisa jo reserve, unko 100% rakhna hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says under full reserve, banks could not create money beyond their State Bank balances.
jitne account mein number hai utna aapka State Bank mein account hona chahiye, ek paisa bhi aap nahi create kar sakenge
- He says banks do two jobs, storing and transacting money and investing or lending it, and that there is friction between them.
bank mein na ke do kaam karta hai, bank jo hai money store karta hai aur transaction karta hai aur ek money investment ya lending kar raha hota hai, in donon mein friction hai
- Qanit Khalilullah calls central bank digital money a good concept, but says it would end innovation in banking.
central bank digital money ek accha concept hai lekin usme masla yeh hai ke usme innovation khatam ho jaati hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says under full reserve the State Bank would control money directly, not through interest rates.
full reserve ke andar interest rate ki requirement khatam ho jati hai kyunki State Bank jo hai money ko directly control kar raha hota hai
- Qanit Khalilullah says Pakistani textile companies made large investments when rates were low in 2021-22.
2021-22 mein na interest rate Pakistan mein bahut kam the na toh hamari saari textiles jo companiyan thi unhone badi investment kar li thi
- He says he has not yet seen any technical problem with the proposal.
mujhe abhi tak koi technical isme problem nazar nahi aayi
- Qanit Khalilullah says he is strongly convinced the proposal can be implemented smoothly.
mera toh bada conviction hai iske upar ke isme koi seamless tareeqe se hona chahiye isko
- Qanit Khalilullah cites Milton Friedman as saying full reserve banking could be implemented overnight.
Milton Friedman, usne yeh kaha ke full reserve banking hai without any repercussion to financial and capital market, it can be implemented overnight
- He holds Chartered and Management Accountancy qualifications from UK and Pakistani institutes.
Mr. Khalilullah holds Chartered and Management Accountancy qualifications from prestigious UK and Pakistani institutes.
- He has more than 25 years of experience in finance and operations.
a highly accomplished professional with over 25 years of experience in finance and operations
- He has worked with A. F. Ferguson (PwC), Unilever Pakistan and Ufone.
He has worked with leading organisations such as A. F. Ferguson (PwC), Unilever Pakistan, and Ufone.
- He has served on the boards of profit and non-profit organisations.
and has served on the boards of various profit and non-profit organisations
- His expertise covers financial planning, strategy, reporting, tax planning, assurance, compliance and supply chain management.
His expertise spans financial planning, strategy, reporting, business advisory, tax planning, assurance, compliance, financial operations, and supply chain management.
- He describes himself as a chartered accountant by profession.
By profession, I am a chartered accountant.
- He qualified as a chartered accountant with Ferguson in Karachi.
Maine Ferguson Karachi se 97 mein CA kiya hai.
- He spent two years in tax consulting.
do saal consulting mein raha hoon, tax consulting ke andar
- He joined Unilever Pakistan and spent almost 10 years there, including as head of audit, internal audit.
Then I joined Unilever Pakistan aur I spent almost 10 years in Unilever, head of audit, internal audit wahan pe raha hoon.
- In 2008 he moved to Islamabad.
2008 mein main move ho gaya tha Islamabad ke andar
- He says he was EVP finance at Ufone.
pehle Ufone mein aur phir Ufone PTCL dono ka EVP finance raha hoon
- He says he read about full reserve banking and found it very close to Islam's true objectives.
Lekin guzashta ek dedh saal pehle maine ek, ek system hai full reserve banking system. Uske ko maine padha aur uske andar humne yeh dekha ke jo Islam ki jo true objectives hain, uske bahut kareeb hai.
- He says he has done substantial work on the subject and currently gives lectures at universities.
uske upar khasa kaam kiya hai aur us silsile mein aaj kal hum universityon mein lectures bhi kar rahe hain
- He has published a detailed article in three parts.
Mera news ke andar ek detail article chapa hai, teen usme hisson ke andar
- He says sales tax is widely regarded as highly regressive.
Aur sales tax jo hai woh ek highly regressive tax samjha jata hai
- He says more than 50, indeed more than 60 percent of collections come through sales tax.
50 se balki 60 percent se zyada jo amount hum jama kar rahe hain, woh sales tax ke through jama kar rahe hain
- He says about 90 percent of Pakistan's interest payments go to domestic debt.
jo 90 percent karze Pakistan ka jo interest hai woh domestic karzon pe ja raha hai
- He says one cause of inflation is that money supply is increased by 20 percent while production of goods and services grows 2.5 to 3 percent.
Mehngai ki ek wajah yeh hoti hai ke hamara jo jo production hai, goods ki aur services ki agar woh 2.5-3 percent se badh rahi hai, money supply 20 percent se hum badha rahe hain
- He calls inflation a tax imposed without representation.
inflation tax kehlayega, isko economist kehte hain ke ek aisa tax hai ke jo without representation hai
- He says he worked out the calculation for a 2.5 percent zakat together with several economists.
agar aap 2.5 percent zakat rakhein to humne iski calculation kai economiston se milke bhi ki hai, takreeban ismein 2500 billion rupaye jama hote hain
- He says each of about 12 million poor families could be given 20,000 to 25,000 rupees.
12 million garib families, har family ko aap 20-25 hazar rupaye de sakte hain
- He proposes an ushr system, a zakat on production, applied to all goods.
to uski jagah agar aap ushr ka nizam nafiz karein, paidawari zakat lagayein aur sab cheezon pe lagayein
- He says the purpose of zakat is to end poverty.
basically zakat ka maqsad yeh hai ke aapko gurbat ko khatam kar dena hai isse
- He says zakat is Islam's fiscal policy, setting what to collect and what to spend.
Main pehle nizam ko yeh kehta hoon ki Islam ki fiscal policy hai, jo zakat ka nizam hai ki kahan se aapko lena hai aur kahan kharch karna hai
- He describes abolishing riba as Islam's monetary policy.
Jo dusra jo hai jo riba ka khatma hai yeh Islam ki monetary policy hai
- He says modern economics shows zakat helps grow the whole economy.
jadeed economy ne yeh baat sabit ki hai ki jo zakat hai woh economy ko overall grow karti hai
- He says he sees gambling happening in every home and on every mobile phone through cryptocurrencies and the stock market.
aaj main har ghar har mobile phone mein gambling hoti dekh raha hoon through cryptocurrencies and you know stock market
- He says zakat is charged on current market value, not the purchase price.
zakat jo hai woh market value ke upar hai. Yani aapne 20 saal pehle jis cheez pe khareeda us pe nahi hai, aaj ki value ke upar hai
- He says determining income exactly is hard, while determining wealth is easy.
do mahine mein bhi main us ki income exactly determine karna mushkil kaam hai. Lekin wealth determine karna asaan hai
- He calls it an inefficient system when an 18% tax brings the government 5.5%.
Yani aap sochein na ke 18% laga ke government ke paas 5.5% aa raha ho to kitni kitna inefficient system hai
- He says 70 to 80 percent of Pakistan's income tax comes from large companies.
Aaj Pakistan ka 70-80% income tax hi aap bari companiyon se le rahe hain
- He suggests a single flat tax system to fund government spending.
agar aap ek flat tax rakh ke usse government ka kharcha chalayein, usko aasaan karein, ek single tax ka system ho
- He says interest is the biggest expense and could be ended immediately.
aapka pura sabse bada kharcha jo interest ka kharcha hai, woh to aap foran khatam kar sakte hain
- He estimates a 2.5 percent wealth zakat would be about 7.5 to 10 percent of GDP.
agar aap aap wealth ke upar 2.5 percent lein to takreeban yeh GDP ka 7.5 se 10 percent tak ban jayega
- He says the poor have a binding right over the wealth of the rich.
agar aapka wealth aapke paas hai, aapke paas daulat hai toh gareeb ka aapke upar haq hai aur woh lazmi haq hai
- He says that 300 to 400 billion spent on a programme, divided per poor person, might not reach 400 rupees a month.
teen-chaar sau billion Ehsaas program mein kar rahi hai. To agar aap usko divide karenge, to per ghareeb shayad woh jo hai, woh Rs. 400 bhi mahine ka na bane
- He says both zakat types together would give poor families about 60,000 to 70,000 rupees a month.
paidawari zakat aur wealth ki zakat se takreeban har ghareeb family ke liye aap Rs. 60,000-70,000 mahine ke mukhtas kar rahe hain
- He suggests giving vouchers so that people can study at the school of their choice.
ji aap unko vouchers de dein aur woh jis school mein jaake padhna chahein, padhein
- He says some schools in Sindh and elsewhere are ghost schools.
Sindh ke andar aur kai jagahon pe aisa haal hai ke bilkul ghost school hain
- He says education is a devolved subject.
Lekin taleem jo hai woh devolved subject hai.
- He says Imam Shafi'i held that the government's expense should not exceed 12.5% of total zakat.
Aur Imam Shafi'i usme yeh kehte hain ke kisi ek mad ke andar aap kyunki aath madat hain, to government ka kharcha total zakat ka 12.5% se ziyada nahi hona chahiye
- He says the basic wage is set at about 35,000 rupees.
Abhi aap dekhiye humne basic wage shayad 35,000 rupees rakhi hui hai
- He says thousands work below the basic wage and are exploited.
Lekin hazaron log is waqt yeh hain ke jo us wage se neeche kaam kar rahe hain, exploit ho rahe hain
- He proposes a job guarantee under which people who cannot find a job are given work.
agar kisi kahin duniya mein aapke paas job nahi hai, kisi jagah pe job nahi hai, toh hum aapko kaam denge
- He says labour unions have largely disappeared.
labor ke liye unions toh aapne jab socialism tha uske muqable mein khatam, khatam hi ho gayi hain
- He says families given cash for basic needs do better on education and health.
jahan bhi paise diye gaye hain basic zarooryat ke liye, wahan un families ne baharhal apni education mein unke bacchon ne, unki sehat ke lihaz se, unki baqi cheezon mein har jagah pe behtar perform kiya hai
- He cites an account from Madinah in which a request to fix prices was refused.
Madinah mein ek dafa yeh hua ke prices badh gayeen aur log gaye aapke paas ke bhai, prices hamare liye fix kar dein. Toh aapne kaha ke price badhata bhi Allah hai aur kam bhi Allah karta hai, toh main nahi chahta ke main Allah ke paas jaoon, mere khilaf kisi ka claim ho. Toh aapne mana kar diya.
- He says interest rates are raised in order to stop money supply growth.
Inka kaam yeh hai ke yeh interest rate badha dete hain ke ji, ji yeh interest rate money ki supply ko rokein
- He says about 98 percent of the loans the banking sector gave in the preceding year went to the government.
pichle saal jo banking ne jo loan diye hain, woh 98% unhone loan government ko diya hai
- He says the government takes loans of 400 to 500 billion rupees from banks.
banks se government 400, 500 billion rupees loan leti hai
- He says the debt will have to be repaid by future generations.
Aur jo debt jo hai, woh hamari aane wali auladon ko dena padega
- He says sovereign currency is issued by the central government as hard money.
Ek money jo hai woh central government create karta hai, yeh hard money hoti hai, rupees hain, ise aap sovereign currency kehte hain
- He says about 97 percent of money today exists as bank numbers rather than cash.
Aur 97% jo hai woh currency banking ke numbers hain yeh.
- He explains that with a 5 percent reserve, a bank can create about 20 times its deposit as new money.
Yani agar aapne 5% reserve hai, toh bank jo hai na woh 20 times money create kar sakte hain
- He says a bank's loan of one crore rupees after taking security is new money.
woh jo ek karod rupay mujhe denge security lene ke baad, woh ek nayi money hogi
- He says private banks create about 90 percent of new money.
Lekin jo 90% money create ho rahi hai woh private banks kar rahe hain
- He says US household debt was close to zero in the 1950s.
1950-60 mein household debt America mein taqreeban zero tha
- He says the State Bank's policy rate is the source of interest rates across the economy.
usme masla State Bank ka policy rate hai jo poore muashre mein interest rate ka sarchashma hai
- He says Islamic banking contracts are linked to the State Bank's discount rate.
unke saare contracts bhi State Bank ke discount rate ke saath linked hote hain
- He says full reserve banking is backed by economists Irving Fisher and Milton Friedman.
Irving Fisher hai, Milton Friedman hai jo bada monetary economist hai, yeh iski support mein hai
- He proposes that new money be created without debt.
Aur yeh money jo hai woh jab create hogi yeh qarze ke bagair hogi, debt ke bagair hogi
- He says banks would need to hold 100 percent reserves instead of 5 percent.
Is system mein yeh hai ke bankon ko na 100% reserve rakhna hoga, 5% nahi 100% rakhna hoga
- He says the government's domestic debt would be eliminated under the full reserve plan.
Government ka poora jo domestic debt hai woh khatam ho gya
- He says US money creation grew about 50 times over the past 50 years.
America ke andar pichle 50 saalon ke andar 50, 50 times hui hai money creation
- He says his proposal would limit money growth to long-term GDP growth of about 4 to 5 percent.
Hamare proposal mein yeh hai ke ji aap GDP jitni long term hai, chaar ya paanch percent bas aap utni create karenge
- He proposes a committee in which both the government and the opposition sit, working with public announcements.
ek aisi committee ho jismein opposition bhi baithi ho, government baithi ho aur public announcement ke saath karein aap
- He says reserve ratios have hardly been used for 40 to 50 years.
Pichle 40 saalon se 50 saalon se reserve ratio kisi ne nahi use kiya
- He says Irving Fisher also argued for eliminating debt.
debt khatam karne ki baat yeh Irving Fisher ne bhi kahi hai
- He says the proposal aims to eliminate Pakistan's debt.
hum isme Pakistan ke debt ko khatam karne ki baat kar rahe hain
- He says full reserve banking is close to Islamic ideals because it creates money without debt.
lekin main kyun Islamic ideal se qareeb keh raha hoon? Kyunki debt ke bagair money create kar raha hai
- He says Islamic banks' murabaha contracts are debt-based in practice.
Islamic bank kar to rahe hain muba- matlab murabaha ka naam lekin actually to debt debt-based contracts hain na
- He says one interest rate sets rates across the economy, and Islamic bank contracts depend on it.
Ek interest rate hai jo poore muashre mein interest rate ko determine kar raha hai aur us pe saare Islamic banks ke contract bhi baithe hue hain
- He favours profit-and-loss sharing.
hum to bilkul is baat ke qayal hain ke ji aap profit and loss ki basis pe karein
- He says about 90 percent of money is created with debt.
Abhi kitni? 90% money debt ke saath create ho rahi hai
- He says capital markets drove much of 20th-century growth.
20th century mein badi taraqqi capital market se hui hai
- He says ushr is 10 percent on rain-fed land and 5 percent where the farmer irrigates.
barani pani yani aasman ke pani se ho raha hai us mein aapki mehnat nahi kharch ho rahi 10% aapko dena hai. Lekin agar aap pani khud le ke aa rahe hain to mehnat aapki kharch ho rahi hai to aapko 5% dena hai
- He says the aim is that wealth should not keep circulating only among the rich.
aapki daulat sirf ameeron ke darmiyan gardish na karti rahe
- He says the second meaning of zakat is growth.
toh zakat ka jo dusra matlab hai na woh growth ka matlab hai
- He says focus should be on distributing zakat more than collecting it.
Hamein zyada focus is pe hona chahiye collection se zyada distribution pe