Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi

founder of one8nine Media

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Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi is the founder of one8nine Media and the writer of Inner Circle, a weekly letter on AI, building and being early to what's coming. He started Lolz Studios in 2010 and worked at Teradata from 2016 to October 2018. With Salman Parekh he created an influencer network that had about 40 to 50 million followers in total.

Early life and background

His mother's family has always lived in Karachi, and his father's family is from Lahore. His father took a job at Askari Bank, a new bank, as one of its founding team. The family lived in a rented house for two years, from 1992 to 1994, and in 1994 got the house in which Zaidi still lives. The family settled in Lahore after they migrated. [2]

The family had to go through a court case over the house. Zaidi says the room he grew up in housed his mother, his father and four siblings, himself included. His grandmother was very old and had Alzheimer's. He moved out of that room at the age of 14. [2]

Zaidi says that growing up he gave a lot of roadside charity. He says he redirected all of that roadside charity to an organisation. [1]

Education

Zaidi attended O-levels at Beaconhouse Margalla Campus and A-levels at Beaconhouse Bani Gala Campus. He could not get into LUMS because of his grades. He went to FAST Karachi for a couple of months and described it as a horrible experience. He started university at FAST in 2011. He completed a four-year bachelor's degree in computer science with a major in data analytics. [2]

Lolz Studios

In 2010 Zaidi took a year off and started Lolz Studios, where he did photography. Lolz Studios moved into video in 2012. It made comedy skits until 2015. In 2015 the Lolz Studios Paris attack video went viral unexpectedly. [2]

Zaidi decided he could not go back to only comedy or entertainment videos, because content could make an impact. He says the audience in Pakistan had not yet evolved to where it is now. He says YouTube was banned in Pakistan at that time. [2]

Smart homes startup

Zaidi started a smart homes startup that installed security cameras in houses. The startup failed, and he went to the United States, where his family lives. [2]

Teradata

Teradata was Zaidi's dream job when he started at FAST. He joined Teradata in 2016 and left in October 2018. He has said he was planning to pursue media and e-commerce full time. [2]

DPL

Zaidi received a job offer from DPL. At DPL he worked as a full-time head of digital marketing for about three to four months, from December to March. He says he does not have the temperament for a 9-to-5 job, and that his strengths span several areas and cannot be limited to one specialist skill. He left DPL to return to the media side of things. [2]

Work with the creator industry

In March 2019, the Information Minister called in the digital industry. Officials reached out to Zaidi as someone who represents creators. He describes himself as one of the oldest creators, with international experience and publications. He argued for a framework that would target specific issues without devastating the entire industry. He says the biggest problem for the industry was the trust deficit with the government. [2]

Zaidi says he knew at the time that grassroots, peri-urban and second-tier areas would rise. After the Kartarpur corridor opened, he took creators from across Pakistan there. He went to Karachi, met all the creators and talked to them. He helped bring creators to the Digital Pakistan launch. [2]

He says the industry held a meetup with the Prime Minister in January 2020. He says a photo was taken that was designed around the Oscar selfie. He says older generations did not see content creation as a legitimate career. [2]

In March 2020, during Covid, Zaidi was helping as a volunteer. He says he saw the best of Pakistan during Covid in 2020 and that the Covid work was done for free. He says he was directly connected to the Prime Minister's office. [2]

Zaidi and Salman Parekh created an influencer network. The influencer network had about 40 to 50 million followers in total. He says the network worked at zero rupee cost and no influencer took payment. [2]

Recent activities

Zaidi says he appeared on national news several times in the past year. He says he went to Karachi and held three meetups. He recently took a trip to Dubai. [1]

He says he is starting an exclusive community. He says his team builds the structure and systems around his work. He took a couple of months off. [1]

Views

Zaidi says influence cannot be measured by views, followers or likes. He describes himself as a conversationalist rather than an investigative journalist, and says he trusts his viewers. He says there is a constant rise in polarisation, particularly in Pakistan, and that society moves like a pendulum, swinging between extremes over time. He says social media is a drug, and that one tends to dehumanize the audience, treating it as clicks, likes and shares. He says people now have the means to verify information and should use them. [1][2]

He says he has always believed hope is a powerful survival mechanism. He says he learns best by speaking to people and understanding why they made their decisions. He says consumer behaviour and psychology have always been his main area of study. He says he needed to think about what he was doing and why he was doing it. He says people should run after value rather than money, and that he is all about impact. [1][2]

Zaidi says Pakistan's economy is structurally broken and that Pakistan needs to reform and that reform is painful. He says PIA made a loss of 90 billion rupees last year, and argues that PIA and steel, among others, should be privatised. He says many people in Pakistan do not pay taxes and generally lack an investment mindset. He argues that circumstances in Pakistan rewarded laziness. [1]

He says he does not agree with the term brain drain, and that it is good if lakhs of people leave Pakistan. He says human capital export brings in about 30 billion dollars a year, more than textiles. He says he knows many Pakistani VPs in Silicon Valley. He says Pakistan is a bigger opportunity than anywhere else because it has many problems to solve. [1][2]

Zaidi says people need to globalise themselves and understand where the world is going. He has said China is going to be the world's largest economy by 2026. He says the future of the world is being created in the Middle East, and that he became convinced that the Middle East is where opportunity lies. [1]

He predicts Pakistan will have no water crisis by 2050 and will be well integrated with the world. He says this is the century of Asia. He says change and evolution are inevitable. [2]

Personal life

Zaidi says his cousin died during a difficult period. He says he was being misunderstood continuously. His father warned him that media was very unsustainable. He says he went into massive depression. [1][2]

He says he is still in Pakistan and expects to be for the foreseeable future. He says he may leave Pakistan at some point in his life, and that he would never be happy anywhere else. He has a child. [2]

Timeline

1992
The family moved into a rented house, where they lived until 1994.[2]
1994
The family got the house he still lives in.[2]
2010
Took a year off and started Lolz Studios.[2]
2011
Started university at FAST.[2]
2012
Lolz Studios moved into video.[2]
2015
The Lolz Studios Paris attack video went viral unexpectedly.[2]
2016
Joined Teradata.[2]
2018
Left Teradata in October.[2]
2019
In March, the Information Minister called in the digital industry.[2]
2020
In January, the industry held a meetup with the Prime Minister. In March, he began helping as a volunteer during Covid.[2]

Appearances

DateTitleWhere
2023-02-20 Muzamil Hasan on going global and Pakistan's reform moment Thought Behind Things
2022-07-20 The surgery that could end Muzamil's career Thought Behind Things

Frequently asked questions

Who is Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi?

Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi is the founder of one8nine Media. He also writes Inner Circle, a weekly letter on AI, building and being early to what's coming.[1]

What does Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi do?

Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi is the founder of one8nine Media and writes the Inner Circle letter. He says his team builds the structure and systems around his work.[1]

Where did Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi study?

Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi attended O-levels at Beaconhouse Margalla Campus and A-levels at Beaconhouse Bani Gala Campus. He started university at FAST in 2011. He completed a four-year bachelor's degree in computer science with a major in data analytics.[2]

Where is Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi from?

Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi's mother's family has always lived in Karachi, and his father's family is from Lahore. The family settled in Lahore after they migrated. He says he is still in Pakistan and expects to be for the foreseeable future.[2]

What is Lolz Studios?

Lolz Studios is a studio that Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi started in 2010, where he did photography. It moved into video in 2012 and made comedy skits until 2015. In 2015 its Paris attack video went viral unexpectedly.[2]

Did Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi work at Teradata?

Yes. Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi joined Teradata in 2016 and left in October 2018. He says Teradata was his dream job when he started at FAST.[2]

What did Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi do at DPL?

Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi received a job offer from DPL and worked there as a full-time head of digital marketing. He worked at DPL for about three to four months, from December to March. He left DPL to return to the media side of things.[2]

References

  1. Muzamil Hasan on going global and Pakistan's reform moment . Thought Behind Things , 2023-02-20.
  2. The surgery that could end Muzamil's career . Thought Behind Things , 2022-07-20.
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  1. He is the founder of one8nine Media. Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi is the host of Asia’s fastest-growing tech podcast ‘thought behind things’ and the founder of one8nine Media.
  2. He says he appeared on national news several times in the past year. I was on national news multiple times uh Yeah, this uh past year.
  3. He says he went to Karachi and held three meetups. I went to the woh Karachi mein jab hum main gaya, I was very surprised. I did not expect. Maine teen meetups kiye thay.
  4. He says influence cannot be measured by views, followers or likes. you can never equate the impact and influence with the number of views, followers or likes.
  5. He says he is starting an exclusive community. and then I'm starting a community uh jo ke uh ek bahut exclusive hogi
  6. He describes himself as a conversationalist rather than an investigative journalist. I'm not I'm not an investigative journalist. I am just a conversationalist uh here to have conversations.
  7. He says he trusts his viewers. main apne viewer ko trust karta hun.
  8. He says there is a constant rise in polarisation, particularly in Pakistan. particularly in Pakistan is that there is a there is a constant rise in polarization.
  9. He says society moves like a pendulum, swinging between extremes over time. everything happens in a sort of pendulum state, jis mein you know, cheezein move karti rehti hain phir woh wapas aati hain.
  10. He says people now have the means to verify information and should use them. Aaj kal ke time pe aapke phone ke upar aapke paas opportunity hai ke aap har cheez ko verify kar sakte hain.
  11. He says Pakistan's economy is structurally broken. Pakistan ki jo economy hai na the way that woh jo structurally chalti hai woh structurally kharab hai.
  12. He says Pakistan needs to reform and that reform is painful. Pakistan needs to reform. Yeah. One way or the other And reform is painful.
  13. He says PIA made a loss of 90 billion rupees last year. aapko pata hai last year PIA ne 90 billion rupees ka loss kiya hai.
  14. He argues that PIA and steel, among others, should be privatised. Um, you need to privatize a lot of these, yeh PIA and steel
  15. He says many people in Pakistan do not pay taxes. Yaar aapke mulk ke andar aap taxes hi nahi de rahe.
  16. He argues that circumstances in Pakistan rewarded laziness. Humne circumstances bhi aise bana diye ke us lazyness ko incentivise kiya
  17. He says people in Pakistan generally lack an investment mindset. generally people in Pakistan they are lacking in investment mindset
  18. He says he does not agree with the term brain drain. Yeh jo brain drain hai na, I don't agree with it.
  19. He says it is good if lakhs of people leave Pakistan. Main yeh kehta hoon yaar lakho log Pakistan chhod ke jayein, achi baat hai.
  20. He says people need to globalise themselves and understand where the world is going. what people need to begin to do is they need to globalize themselves, they need to understand where the world is going.
  21. He has said China is going to be the world's largest economy by 2026. China is going to be the world's largest economy by 2026.
  22. He says the future of the world is being created in the Middle East. the future of the world is being created in the Middle East right now.
  23. He says he became convinced that the Middle East is where opportunity lies. I became a believer ke Middle East is where it's at.
  24. He recently took a trip to Dubai. recently I took a trip to Dubai as well
  25. He took a couple of months off. Took a couple of months off and now we're starting.
  26. He says he needed to think about what he was doing and why he was doing it. maine zara sochna hai ke main kya kar raha hoon aur main kyun kar raha hoon
  27. He says his cousin died during a difficult period. my uh my cousin had passed away and uh usi ke sath one after the other these things were happening.
  28. He says he was being misunderstood continuously. I was being misunderstood continuously.
  29. He says that growing up he gave a lot of roadside charity. growing up I used to do a lot of yeh roadside charity.
  30. He says he redirected all of that roadside charity to an organisation. I converted all of that charity towards TCF.
  31. He says his team builds the structure and systems around his work. Meri team pura mera structure karti hai, sara system setup karti hai.
  32. He says he has always believed hope is a powerful survival mechanism. I've always believed uh ke ke hope is is is a very powerful uh survival uh mechanism right?
  33. He says he learns best by speaking to people and understanding why they made their decisions. I learn best when I uh you know speak to people and try to understand why they took the decisions that they took.
  34. He says consumer behaviour and psychology have always been his main area of study. Mera sara study area of interest hamesha consumer behavior psychology rahi hai
  35. He writes Inner Circle, a weekly letter on AI, building and being early to what's coming. Join the Inner Circle, my weekly letter on AI, building, and being early to what's coming:
  36. His mother's family has always lived in Karachi, and his father's family is from Lahore. My mother's entire side has always lived in Karachi. Uh, my father's entire side is fully from Lahore.
  37. His father took a job at Askari Bank, a new bank, as one of its founding team. he got a job at Askari Bank, naya bank khul raha tha and he was I believe the fourth or the fifth employee there, part of the founding team.
  38. The family lived in a rented house for two years, from 1992 to 1994. '92 se '94 hum do saal ek rented house mein rahe the.
  39. In 1994 the family got the house he still lives in. uske baad phir '94 mein humne apna final ghar liya, jis ghar mein phir main aaj tak rehta hoon.
  40. The family settled in Lahore after they migrated. So, we migrated and came to Model Town, Lahore.
  41. The family had to go through a court case over the house. we had to go through like a court case for this house as well.
  42. He says the room he grew up in housed his mother, his father and four siblings, himself included. this room used to house my mother, my father, and four of us siblings.
  43. He moved out of that room at the age of 14. I moved out of this room when I was 14 years old.
  44. His grandmother was very old and had Alzheimer's. wahan pe meri dadi hua karti thin. Uh, she was very old and had Alzheimer's.
  45. He attended O-levels at Beaconhouse Margalla Campus and A-levels at Beaconhouse Bani Gala Campus. O-levels was in Beaconhouse Margalla Campus and then A-levels was in Beaconhouse Bani Gala Campus
  46. He could not get into LUMS because of his grades. I was priming myself to go to LUMS and I couldn't get into LUMS because of the grades.
  47. He went to FAST Karachi for a couple of months and described it as a horrible experience. I went to FAST Karachi a couple of months. Horrible experience.
  48. He started university at FAST in 2011. Um, then in 2011, I started university at FAST.
  49. He completed a four-year bachelor's degree in computer science with a major in data analytics. aapne chaar saal bachelors kiya in Data Science. In Computer Science. Okay. In Computer Science with a major in Data Analytics.
  50. In 2010 he took a year off and started Lolz Studios, where he did photography. I took a year off in 2010 and I started Lols Studios at the time. I was doing photography.
  51. Lolz Studios moved into video in 2012. Lols Studios ki jo video side thi, woh aayi thi 2012 mein. Um, jismein again 22 Random Acts of Kindness aayi thi.
  52. Lolz Studios made comedy skits until 2015. comedy skits banana shuru kar diye. Um, we did that for a while till 2015.
  53. In 2015 the Lolz Studios Paris attack video went viral unexpectedly. 2015 mein last I think we did the uh, the Paris Attack video and that just blew up and um, it was all over everywhere, um, unexpectedly.
  54. He decided he could not go back to only comedy or entertainment videos, because content could make an impact. I can't go back to like just creating sort of comedy or entertainment category videos. Because I was just like ke yaar if if if content can do this, can make this impact
  55. He says the audience in Pakistan had not yet evolved to where it is now. the audience in Pakistan at the time was very uh, um, hadn't evolved to a space which which they have evolved now.
  56. He says YouTube was banned in Pakistan at that time. Us time pe YouTube nahi tha. YouTube us time pe banned tha
  57. His father warned him that media was very unsustainable. I remember my father saying ke dekh lo beta, you know media is very unsustainable
  58. He says he also went into massive depression. I went into massive depression as well.
  59. He says social media is a drug. social media actually is a is a is a drug, right?
  60. He says one tends to dehumanize the audience, treating it as clicks, likes and shares. you tend to dehumanize the audience in a way ke it's all about clicks and likes and shares.
  61. He started a smart homes startup that installed security cameras in houses. Maine smart homes ka startup kiya. We used to go and uh install um security cameras in different houses.
  62. The startup failed, and he went to the United States, where his family lives. Woh jab startup fail hua to I went to the US. My family is there.
  63. Teradata was his dream job when he started at FAST. Achha jab maine fast shuru kiya tha to meri dream job Teradata thi.
  64. He joined Teradata in 2016. 2016 mein join kiya tha.
  65. He left Teradata in October 2018. 18 mein I left Teradata in in October 18.
  66. He was planning to pursue media and e-commerce full time. I was planning ki ab main media ko full time pursue karunga, media, e-commerce aur woh saara saara.
  67. He received a job offer from DPL. Saqib Ahmed sahab, unki company hai DPL.
  68. At DPL he worked as a full-time head of digital marketing. No, no, that was a full-time role as a as the head of digital marketing.
  69. He worked at DPL for about three to four months, from December to March. I worked there from I believe December to March, 3 to 4 months.
  70. He says he does not have the temperament for a 9-to-5 job. generally I don't have the right temperament to do a 9 to 5.
  71. He says his strengths span several areas and cannot be limited to one specialist skill. I also realized that I have a lot of different thought processes and in strengths and those strengths can't be bogged down to one specific skill.
  72. He left DPL to return to the media side of things. so then I left that and I came back to the media side of things.
  73. In March 2019, the Information Minister called in the digital industry. So this was 2019 March, I believe and Fawad Chaudhry sahab was the Information Minister and uh uh he called in an industry.
  74. Officials reached out to him as someone who represents creators. They reached out to me ki ji aap aaye, aap creators ko represent karte hain.
  75. He describes himself as one of the oldest creators, with international experience and publications. I was one of the oldest. I uh had a lot of international experience as well. I had a lot of publications as well.
  76. He argued for a framework that would target specific issues without devastating the entire industry. But then have a framework that will target those things and not devastate the entire industry.
  77. He says he knew at the time that grassroots, peri-urban and second-tier areas would rise. I knew at the time ki yaar aapke grass root pe peri-urban aur second tier mein ab uthega
  78. After the Kartarpur corridor opened, he took creators from across Pakistan there. Kartarpur corridor khula to us pe phir creators ko align karke we took from Karachi, Lahore, all over Pakistan.
  79. He went to Karachi, met all the creators and talked to them. I went to Karachi as well and I met all the creators and I talked to them
  80. He says the biggest problem for the industry was the trust deficit with the government. sabse bada masla jo tha hamari industry mein specifically but overall in Pakistan is trust deficit with the government.
  81. He helped bring creators to the Digital Pakistan launch. we had a Digital Pakistan ka launch and we got a bunch of creators from there as well.
  82. He says the industry held a meetup with the Prime Minister in January 2020. the most important part was the in 2020 uh when uh January ke andar when we did the uh Prime Minister's meetup
  83. He says older generations did not see content creation as a legitimate career. the reason why the older generations took us non-seriously was because they never saw this as as a legitimate career.
  84. He says a photo was taken that was designed around the Oscar selfie. And we took that photo that was designed around the Oscar selfie.
  85. In March 2020, during Covid, he was helping as a volunteer. March mein then Covid happened and I was helping Tania Aidrus uh volunteer.
  86. He says he saw the best of Pakistan during Covid in 2020. I saw the best of Pakistan in Covid 2020.
  87. He says the Covid work was done for free. all of it was being done for free.
  88. He says he was directly connected to the Prime Minister's office. Main directly connected tha Prime Minister office ke saath
  89. He and Salman Parekh created an influencer network. So we created a an influencer network, Salman Parekh uh from Karachi
  90. The influencer network had about 40 to 50 million followers in total. koi taqreeban 40 se 50 million following, aggregate following ke influencers hamare paas the.
  91. He says the network worked at zero rupee cost and no influencer took payment. with zero rupee cost. Okay. You know, nobody, no influencer took a single dime.
  92. He mentored a newer creator on what to do and how to build a brand. I started mentoring her because obviously unka comparatively she was newer as a creator and so what to do, what not to do, how to build a brand essentially.
  93. He went through case studies, MIT studies, Harvard studies and books. I went through like case studies and you know, MIT ki studies, Harvard ki studies, books, anything that I could find
  94. He says a big creator's Instagram post sold for about 5,000 rupees in 2016. 16 mein ek Instagram ki post 5000 rupay ki bikti thi. 2016 mein, bade creator ki.
  95. He says a big creator's post sold for between 1.5 lakh and 3.5 lakh rupees in 2019. 2019 mein ek bade creator ki post bikti thi, koi takreeban anywhere between 1.5 lakh se 3.5 lakh.
  96. He says a big creator's post now sells for between 4 lakh and 15 lakh rupees. Aaj kisi bade creator ki, celebrity ki main baat nahi kar raha, aaj bade creator ki anywhere between 4 lakh to 15 lakh rupay ki post bikti hai.
  97. He says he worked for free because he was doing it for impact. I was working with Tania for free because I was doing that for impact
  98. He says people should run after value rather than money. You want to make more money, you don't need to run after money, you need to run after value.
  99. He says he is all about impact. I am all about impact.
  100. He says he is still in Pakistan and expects to be for the foreseeable future. I am still in Pakistan for the good for foreseeable future
  101. He says he may leave Pakistan at some point in his life. Shayad main chala jaoon at some point in my life.
  102. He has a child. I have a kid now and woh saara ka saara
  103. He says he would never be happy anywhere else. I would never be happy anywhere else.
  104. He says Pakistan is a bigger opportunity than anywhere else because it has many problems to solve. I always saw Pakistan as a bigger opportunity than anywhere else in the world simply because of the fact that there were so many problems
  105. He says human capital export brings in about 30 billion dollars a year, more than textiles. It's bigger than textile textile does 20 billion your human capital export does 30 billion dollars a year that sends back to you.
  106. He says he knows many Pakistani VPs in Silicon Valley. I know so many VPs in in the Silicon Valley who are Pakistanis.
  107. He predicts Pakistan will have no water crisis by 2050. 2050 ka Pakistan mein water crisis bhi nahi hoga.
  108. He predicts Pakistan will be well integrated with the world by 2050. 2050 ka Pakistan jo hai woh duniya mein bahut zyada well integrated hoga.
  109. He says this is the century of Asia. So this is definitely 110% the century of Asia.
  110. He says change and evolution are inevitable. Change inevitable hai. Evolution inevitable hai.